On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 02:00:51PM -0500, Timothy Normand Miller wrote:
> I really like this Steam idea.  If we could get them to participate in the
> project, that would be phenomenal.  Should we wait until I've had time to
> code the reference stream processor?
> 
> Also, Jeri's accomplishments are certainly impressive.  But doing our own
> fabrication is billions of dollars outside of the scope of this project,
>  You may be able to make a single IC in your garage with a few dozen
> transistors on it, but that's a far cry from mass production with high
> yield of chips with hundreds of thousands of transistors at 45nm or smaller
> geometry. 

Let's just go for 130nm process, and make GDS files with alliance and the
http://www.vlsitechnology.org/ cell libraries. That doesn't cost anything
but time, which, in theory, we have plenty of.

I spent an hour or so and I think I managed to run a flow to make a 4 bit
adder GDS file. As part of the energy characterization research, if you
can code up a single stream processor, and we fab it on 130nm with 300 
test points for characterizing the energy use, we have something of real
value to the academic research goals. I think it would be a usefull (and
low cost) benchmark to be able to make a few thousand research shader 
chips that grad students can play with running different microcodes and
clock speeds and watching a thermal camera image of the package, or even
put a window on it like the old UV-EEproms used to have... Sounds like
an NSF grant to me...

In say 10 years, someone at a fab that's closing down will make me an offer..
If you bring a truck, you can have all the 130nm equipment you can haul away.
Heck, I might even get paid to 'dispose' of it.

That's the zero-dollar, very long time version.

Billions if we ship next year, -$1200 (disposal payment) if we ship last
year's technology in a decade from now.

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