Yamil has converted a number of folks to IRC over time (IMO). On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Remington Steed <r...@calvin.edu> wrote:
> Scott, > > > > Thanks for your willingness to try IRC again. Yamil’s practice sessions > are very good and will hopefully get you past any barriers. > > > > Regarding Documentation Interest Group (DIG) meetings, you can find full > meeting logs, as well as the rough minutes, at this link: > > http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings > > > > And you are welcome to join the Docs list ( > http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-documentation) > to join the conversation. That is where we will probably discuss the date > for the June meeting. > > > > Remington > > > > -- > > Remington Steed > > Electronic Resources Specialist > > Hekman Library, Calvin College > > http://library.calvin.edu/ > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of * > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:25 AM > > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > Thank you, everyone, for your responses. Regarding the cost of another > solution, I am sure, if all of the larger consortia contributed, we could > come up with something. Having said that, the other reasons everyone gave > for using IRC are indeed compelling. Who hasn’t been burned by a Java > download when trying to access an on-line meeting? I can’t say I am > thrilled. I’d be happy if I never had to see another command prompt in any > context and was disappointed that I missed the recent documentation meeting > because I could not get IRC to work, but I will avail myself of any > practice sessions, and I may yet learn to love IRC. This is all new to me. > > > > Thank you again. > > > > Scott > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [ > mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org > <open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Holly > Brennan > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 2:06 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > I’ll chime in, too, as a relative newcomer - > > > > IRC was completely new to me three years ago, but I found it easy to learn > the more “advanced” ins-and-outs (because there’s really nothing to learn > when all you want to do is ask a question) . I like being able to hop on > using any browser or program I want, with nothing to install, anytime I’ve > needed to. > > > > Sadly, I cannot say the same for any of the fancier meeting platforms. > Most webinars I’ve used on these platforms require 15 minutes at the > beginning of the session to explain how to chat/alert/etc, and there is > usually someone who can’t connect to one or more parts. I have found myself > in those situations, and I consider myself quite tech-savvy. > > > > I love the simplicity (and yes, antiquity) of the IRC interface! (And > there are many other benefits, as already stated) > > > > -Holly > > > > > > Holly Brennan > > Technology Specialist > > Homer Public Library > > > > hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov > > 907-435-3154 (direct) > > 907-235-3180 (main desk) > > > > > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [ > mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org > <open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Sharp > *Sent:* Monday, May 9, 2016 9:46 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > A couple of pro-IRC points to consider as well: > > - conversations are publicly logged and web-searchable > > - despite the apparent intimidation factor for new users (mitigated by > sessions like Yamil so generously offers), it's a low point of entry > > - can accommodate hundreds (or thousands) of users who can participate in > real time, making meetings truly public (the most I've seen > teleconferencing software accommodate is maybe 15, increasing costs for > whoever is hosting the meeting) > > I'm open to individual committees or the Evergreen Oversight Board > occasionally using conference software for a more face-to-face feel, but I > hope we will continue using IRC for most community business for the above > reasons (and the ones Ben mentioned). > > Just my two cents, > > Chris > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Ben Shum <b...@evergreener.net> wrote: > > It's a reasonable question and one we should continue to evaluate over > time. > > One reason we did not always like products like gotomeeting, etc. was > cost. While community volunteers could grant access to their organizations > resources, the community itself never decided to spend money on platforms. > Freenode IRC is free to use. > > Another reason is cross platform compatibility; some of us used Linux > workstations and these did not always play nicely with those applications. > > After this many years on IRC, it's second nature to me, but I also see the > value considering alternative solutions if we can work through all the > logistics and continue to keep barriers of access to a minimum. > > -- Ben > > Sent from my Nexus 6 > > On May 9, 2016 12:01 PM, "scott.tho...@sparkpa.org" < > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> wrote: > > I’d like to ask a general question about this since I am still fairly new > to the community. Why has the Evergreen community opted to use IRC chat as > an on-line meeting venue? The one time I used it I found it disconcerting > in its antiquated look and feel and had difficulty with the etiquette. Why > not use GoToMeeting, Blackboard Collaborate, or a similar product? The chat > interface in these products is much closer to what most of us are used to > and it would add in the possibility of using VOIP and screen sharing. I’ve > been curious about this for a while.... > > > > Scott > > > > > > Scott Thomas > > Executive Director > > *PaILS / SPARK* > > (717) 873-9461 > > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org > > [image: Description: Description: Training | SPARK – Pennsylvania's > Statewide Library System] <http://www.palibrary.org/pails/> > > > > > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Barbara > Cormack > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 12:46 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > I second what Stuart said; I'd be interested. Thanks! -- Barbara > > > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Forrest, Stuart <sforr...@bcgov.net> > wrote: > > Yes please I missed the last one > > > > Stuart > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Yamil > Suarez > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 11:59 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > Hello, > > > > Last week the IRC practice time went well, and we had a good bunch of > folks trying out IRC. I wanted to check in if there was interest for a > second practice time. I am all for it, but I wanted to verify that there > was community interest. Remember to include your colleagues that are not on > this list that may want to learn. > > > > I tend to pick times after 12 noon EST to allow those on the west coast to > join, but I am willing to schedule something in the (east coast) morning > too. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Yamil > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Barbara Cormack > > Project Manager > > *Equinox Software - Open Your Library* > > 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > > barb...@esilibrary.com > www.esilibrary.com > > > > > -- > > Chris Sharp > > PINES System Administrator > > Georgia Public Library Service > > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > > Atlanta, Georgia 30345 > (404) 235-7147 > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Rogan R. Hamby, Data and Project Analyst Equinox - Open Your Library ro...@esilibrary.com 1-877-OPEN-ILS | www.esilibrary.com