I think an additional factor is that a lot of participants like IRC. I know that some folks find face to face communication more natural and nuanced but I think there is a population that is very comfortable with and prefers textual. This isn't to dismiss the value of face to face but just to point out that I think a group opinion will vary a lot based on who is in the group. It is possible that IRC isn't the defacto just because of some kind of inertia but the commonality of personalities over time who prefer it.
For my part there are times I think we would get more accomplished in face to face meetings but I tend to prefer IRC for many purposes and like textual interfaces. On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:24 AM, scott.tho...@sparkpa.org < scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> wrote: > Thank you, everyone, for your responses. Regarding the cost of another > solution, I am sure, if all of the larger consortia contributed, we could > come up with something. Having said that, the other reasons everyone gave > for using IRC are indeed compelling. Who hasn’t been burned by a Java > download when trying to access an on-line meeting? I can’t say I am > thrilled. I’d be happy if I never had to see another command prompt in any > context and was disappointed that I missed the recent documentation meeting > because I could not get IRC to work, but I will avail myself of any > practice sessions, and I may yet learn to love IRC. This is all new to me. > > > > Thank you again. > > > > Scott > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Holly > Brennan > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 2:06 PM > > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > email@example.com> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > I’ll chime in, too, as a relative newcomer - > > > > IRC was completely new to me three years ago, but I found it easy to learn > the more “advanced” ins-and-outs (because there’s really nothing to learn > when all you want to do is ask a question) . I like being able to hop on > using any browser or program I want, with nothing to install, anytime I’ve > needed to. > > > > Sadly, I cannot say the same for any of the fancier meeting platforms. > Most webinars I’ve used on these platforms require 15 minutes at the > beginning of the session to explain how to chat/alert/etc, and there is > usually someone who can’t connect to one or more parts. I have found myself > in those situations, and I consider myself quite tech-savvy. > > > > I love the simplicity (and yes, antiquity) of the IRC interface! (And > there are many other benefits, as already stated) > > > > -Holly > > > > > > Holly Brennan > > Technology Specialist > > Homer Public Library > > > > hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov > > 907-435-3154 (direct) > > 907-235-3180 (main desk) > > > > > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [ > mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org > <open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Sharp > *Sent:* Monday, May 9, 2016 9:46 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > A couple of pro-IRC points to consider as well: > > - conversations are publicly logged and web-searchable > > - despite the apparent intimidation factor for new users (mitigated by > sessions like Yamil so generously offers), it's a low point of entry > > - can accommodate hundreds (or thousands) of users who can participate in > real time, making meetings truly public (the most I've seen > teleconferencing software accommodate is maybe 15, increasing costs for > whoever is hosting the meeting) > > I'm open to individual committees or the Evergreen Oversight Board > occasionally using conference software for a more face-to-face feel, but I > hope we will continue using IRC for most community business for the above > reasons (and the ones Ben mentioned). > > Just my two cents, > > Chris > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Ben Shum <b...@evergreener.net> wrote: > > It's a reasonable question and one we should continue to evaluate over > time. > > One reason we did not always like products like gotomeeting, etc. was > cost. While community volunteers could grant access to their organizations > resources, the community itself never decided to spend money on platforms. > Freenode IRC is free to use. > > Another reason is cross platform compatibility; some of us used Linux > workstations and these did not always play nicely with those applications. > > After this many years on IRC, it's second nature to me, but I also see the > value considering alternative solutions if we can work through all the > logistics and continue to keep barriers of access to a minimum. > > -- Ben > > Sent from my Nexus 6 > > On May 9, 2016 12:01 PM, "scott.tho...@sparkpa.org" < > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org> wrote: > > I’d like to ask a general question about this since I am still fairly new > to the community. Why has the Evergreen community opted to use IRC chat as > an on-line meeting venue? The one time I used it I found it disconcerting > in its antiquated look and feel and had difficulty with the etiquette. Why > not use GoToMeeting, Blackboard Collaborate, or a similar product? The chat > interface in these products is much closer to what most of us are used to > and it would add in the possibility of using VOIP and screen sharing. I’ve > been curious about this for a while.... > > > > Scott > > > > > > Scott Thomas > > Executive Director > > *PaILS / SPARK* > > (717) 873-9461 > > scott.tho...@sparkpa.org > > [image: Description: Description: Training | SPARK – Pennsylvania's > Statewide Library System] <http://www.palibrary.org/pails/> > > > > > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Barbara > Cormack > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 12:46 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < > firstname.lastname@example.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > I second what Stuart said; I'd be interested. Thanks! -- Barbara > > > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Forrest, Stuart <sforr...@bcgov.net> > wrote: > > Yes please I missed the last one > > > > Stuart > > > > *From:* Open-ils-general [mailto: > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Yamil > Suarez > *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2016 11:59 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Should we schedule another IRC practice > time? > > > > Hello, > > > > Last week the IRC practice time went well, and we had a good bunch of > folks trying out IRC. I wanted to check in if there was interest for a > second practice time. I am all for it, but I wanted to verify that there > was community interest. Remember to include your colleagues that are not on > this list that may want to learn. > > > > I tend to pick times after 12 noon EST to allow those on the west coast to > join, but I am willing to schedule something in the (east coast) morning > too. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Yamil > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Barbara Cormack > > Project Manager > > *Equinox Software - Open Your Library* > > 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) > > barb...@esilibrary.com > www.esilibrary.com > > > > > -- > > Chris Sharp > > PINES System Administrator > > Georgia Public Library Service > > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > > Atlanta, Georgia 30345 > (404) 235-7147 > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Rogan R. Hamby, Data and Project Analyst Equinox - Open Your Library ro...@esilibrary.com 1-877-OPEN-ILS | www.esilibrary.com