I didn't think about this until I saw Kathy's message pop up but I could
also imagine a location where they don't want traffic going outside their
defined network for a variety of reasons and it would have to be easy to
modify or it would break for them.




Rogan Hamby

Data and Project Analyst

Equinox Open Library Initiative

phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)

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On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think it has some challenges also.  One of these is that some Evergreen
> users customize their installs.  You can always say "oh, then they have to
> modify their links to go to different docs too."  I'd want to hear from
> community members that might affect.
>
> Yes, that was my first reaction. If we had links to documentation in the
> client, then I would want a setting allowing sites to customize the URL
> that is used. There are many features / settings in Evergreen that may not
> be available to our libraries due to policy. I would want them to access
> documentation specific to their implementation of Evergreen.
>
> Related to Don's third bullet point, I also wanted to throw in a comment
> that we do have something called field documentation available for the
> patron editor that I think could be expanded to other interfaces in the
> client. However, it takes a bit of work to configure field documentation.
> More information is available at http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/
> 2.1/html/fielddocumentation.html The docs are from 2.1, but my
> recollection is that the field documentation in the web client displays the
> same way as it did in the old client.
>
> Kathy
>
> On 08/24/2017 02:14 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> When you say "constantly updated" I'm imagining that you're not thinking
> of something bundled with the distribution but links that go back to the
> community site?  At the least this would have to be bound by version I
> think and the granularity of the version it links to would have to be
> considered.  For example, if path 31.2 introduces a new feature then we
> need a new version of the docs to mirror that.  Anyway, that's all a long
> way of saying I think the idea has merit but it could create accidental
> confusion if not done just right.  Docs aren't always quite in sync with
> development now and I think then the expectation that they would be, even
> on small patches would be even higher.
>
> I think it has some challenges also.  One of these is that some Evergreen
> users customize their installs.  You can always say "oh, then they have to
> modify their links to go to different docs too."  I'd want to hear from
> community members that might affect.
>
>
> Rogan Hamby
>
> Data and Project Analyst
>
> Equinox Open Library Initiative
>
> phone:  1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457)
>
> email:  ro...@equinoxinitiative.org
> web:  http://EquinoxInitiative.org
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Donald Butterworth <don.butterworth@
> asburyseminary.edu> wrote:
>
>> Jillianne and Jane,
>>
>> I like what you have done a *lot*. It makes so much sense and is less
>> intimidating for us cataloger types who shy away from system
>> administration.
>>
>> I wonder ... could the concept be taken a step further to include hot
>> links, in Webby, to a constantly updated HTML version of the
>> documentation?  I see 3 possibilities.
>>
>>    - Create a "Documentation" dropdown menu, consisting of all 7 docs,
>>    alongside of Search | Circulation | Cataloging | etc.
>>    - Add "Documentation" as a line item in the existing dropdown menus.
>>    - Ideally, right click on any dropdown menu line item, then have a
>>    line on the popup window with a context sensitive hot link. OCLC does
>>    something similar with a "MARC Field Help" hot link to its Bibliographic
>>    Formats and Standards.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your great work! +1
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Mary Llewellyn <mllew...@biblio.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it looks great, much less overwhelming to have the module
>>> documentation split up.
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Ruth Frasur <
>>> direc...@hagerstownlibrary.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This looks great.  I appreciate the reasoning behind this schema and
>>>> think it's very usable.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Jane Sandberg <sand...@linnbenton.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Evergreeners,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jillianne Presley and I have put together a proof of concept for a new
>>>>> direction for Evergreen's documentation, and DIG would really
>>>>> appreciate your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather than the current documentation, which tries to be many things
>>>>> to many people, the reorganized documentation is separated into
>>>>> separate manuals, each with its own audience (e.g. catalogers,
>>>>> front-line circ folks, sysadmins).  The hope is that this organization
>>>>> will help get the right content to the right people, and help DIG keep
>>>>> tabs on documentation gaps.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find the new manuals in the bottom half of this page:
>>>>> http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind that -- in this proof-of-concept iteration -- there are
>>>>> some pieces of documentation that are in the wrong manual.  However,
>>>>> we hope that it is close enough that you'd be able to tell us:
>>>>>
>>>>> a) if you think that reorganized documentation would be a valuable
>>>>> thing for this community to have.
>>>>>
>>>>> b) if the current breakdowns of manuals would make sense for your
>>>>> library.
>>>>>
>>>>> c) other feedback on this project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, that link is http://docs-testing.evergreen-ils.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much for your help,
>>>>>
>>>>>    -Jane
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jane Sandberg
>>>>> Electronic Resources Librarian
>>>>> Linn-Benton Community College
>>>>> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655
>>>>> Pronouns: she/her/hers or they/them/theirs
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ruth Frasur
>>>> Director of the Historic(ally Awesome) Hagerstown - Jefferson Township
>>>> Library
>>>> 10 W. College Street in Hagerstown, Indiana (47346)
>>>> p (765) 489-5632 <%28765%29%20489-5632>; f (765) 489-5808
>>>> <%28765%29%20489-5808>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mary Llewellyn
>>> Database Manager
>>> Bibliomation, Inc.
>>> 24 Wooster Ave.
>>> Waterbury, CT 06708
>>> mllew...@biblio.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Butterworth
>> Collection Management Librarian /
>> Faculty Associate
>> B.L. Fisher Library
>> Asbury Theological Seminary
>> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
>> (859) 858-2227 <%28859%29%20858-2227>
>>
>
>
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> Kathy Lussier
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