Hi, 

I don’t think it was recorded as it wasn’t in the main auditorium. 

Hopefully Daniel remembers the fourth reason.

Thanks,
David

On 16 Oct 2014, at 19:26, Yana Welinder <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks all! I'm sorry that I missed the OA panel at Wikimania. Does anyone 
> know if there is a video of the panel?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Yana
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Melissa Hagemann 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Yana,
> 
> To build on Daniel's comment re inclusion of OA in Wikimania this year, Jimmy 
> spoke on an OA panel Daniel and I participated in. Jimmy gave four great 
> reasons as to why OA is important to Wikimedia. Unfortunately, I was chairing 
> the session, and didn't write them all down, but perhaps Daniel remembers, as 
> Jimmy framed his talk very well. I believe three of them were:
> 
> OA is important to Wikimedia as it provides access to research in:
> - developing countries
> - everyone with Jack Andraka as an example
> - the OA scholarly research which is made available which can be used to 
> develop WMF projects
> 
> Cheers,
> Melissa Hagemann
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Mietchen
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:42 AM
> To: Open Access discussions
> Subject: Re: [OpenAccess] Blog post on Open Access
> 
>  Thanks, Yana. Comments inline.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Yana Welinder <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > We are doing a guest blog post on open access for EFF next week.
> Cool!
> 
> >
> > Free as in Open Access and Wikipedia
> >
> >
> > Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia sites are closely connected to open
> > access ideals
> "ideals" has a bit too much of a romantic connotation here. Something like 
> "goals" would be better, I think.
> 
> > of making scholarship freely available and reusable. Consistent with
> > these ideals, the Wikimedia sites make information available to
> > internet users around the world free of charge in hundreds of
> > languages. Wikimedia content can also be reused under its free
> > licenses. The content is enriched by citations to open access
> > scholarship, and the Wikimedia sites play a unique role in making
> > academic learning easily available to the world. As the next
> > generation of scholars embraces open access principles to become a
> > true Generation Open,
> - the video linked there is licensed -NC-ND (as displayed shortly before the 
> end, and contrary to the CC BY indicated in the metadata), so I would not 
> link to it.
> - "true" in such contexts is also problematic, especially near non-open 
> licenses and considering that open access refers only to access to (some of 
> the) final outputs of research, rather than all outputs and the entire 
> process.
> 
> > we will move closer to "a world in which every single human being can
> > freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
> >
> >
> > To write and edit Wikipedia, contributors need to access high quality
> > independent sources. Unfortunately, paywalls and copyright
> > restrictions often prevent the use of academic journals to write
> > Wikipedia articles and enrich them with citations. Citations are
> > particularly important to allow readers to verify Wikipedia articles
> > and learn more about the topic from the underlying sources. Given the
> > importance of open access to Wikipedia, the Wikimedia community of
> > contributors has set up
> I don't think that "set up" should be linked, and the link currently in there 
> is not a good fit anyway (it would fit better to the "importance of open 
> access to Wikipedia" phrase above or the "closely connected" one from the 
> introductory sentence, or the "reciprocal relationship" below).
> 
> > a WikiProject Open Access to
> > improve open access-related articles on Wikipedia
> and to increase the reuse of open-access materials on Wikimedia platforms 
> more generally, e.g. as per 
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Open_Access_Media_Importer_Bot
> or
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_OA-ness
> .
> For an overview of activities, see the monthly reports at 
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:This_Month_in_GLAM_Open_Access_reports
> .
> 
> > and create an Open Access
> > Policy for research projects with the support of the Wikimedia Foundation.
> Those were not the goals of the creation of the WikiProject, and the policy - 
> which is still in draft stage, by the way - has not received support from the 
> Foundation, and that link is to a page that is misleading in the context of 
> this blog post, as it only clarifies the meaning of the term "significant 
> support" for the purposes of that draft policy.
> 
> > Great potential lies in the reciprocal relationship between the open
> > access scholarship that enriches Wikipedia and Wikipedia’s promotion
> > of primary sources. As a secondary source, Wikipedia does not publish
> > ideas or facts that are not supported by reliable and published
> > sources. Wikipedia has tremendous power as a platform for relaying the
> > outcomes of academic study by leading over 400 million monthly
> > visitors to underlying scholarship cited in articles. Just as a
> > traditional encyclopedia would, Wikipedia can make the underlying
> > research easier to find. But unlike a traditional encyclopedia, it
> > provides free access and free reuse to all. In that sense, Wikipedia is an 
> > ideal secondary source for open access research.
> Here, it would be appropriate to mention the Open Access Reader project:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Access_Reader .
> 
> > In light of this, we are thrilled to see Generation Open blooming.
> Not sure what you see blooming here.
> 
> > The
> > Digital Commons Network now boasts 1,109,355 works from 358 institutions.
> Most of these are actually not openly licensed.
> 
> > The Directory of Open Access Journals further has over 10,035 journals
> "over 10,000" would be more appropriate.
> 
> > from 135 countries.
> >
> > Esteemed law journals such as the Harvard Journal of Law and
> > Technology, Berkeley Technology Law Journal, and Michigan Law Review
> > subscribe to the Open Access Law Program, which encourages them to
> > archive their articles under open access principles.
> These journals archive their content under free-to-read principles, with 
> limited options for reuse. See also 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Open_Access_Initiative#Definition_of_open_access
> .
> 
> > Wikipedians are also contributing to the body of published open access
> > scholarship. Earlier this month, four Wikipedians published an article
> > on Dengue fever in Open Medicine (an open access and peer-reviewed
> > journal) based on a Wikipedia article that was collaboratively edited
> > by 1,369
> "over 1,300" may be better here
> 
> > volunteers and bots. In addition to providing an open access scholarly
> > article on this important topic, this publication validated that
> > Wikipedia's editorial process can produce high quality content outside
> > traditional academia.
> Yes.
> 
> It is worth mentioning that many more Wikipedia articles already incorporate 
> text from openly licensed scholarly articles (cf.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_incorporating_text_from_open_access_publications
> ) and that a subset thereof (cf.
> http://topicpages.ploscompbiol.org/wiki/Category:PLoS_Computational_Biology_articles)
> have actually been written by scholars for that purpose and published in a 
> peer-reviewed journal.
> 
> > Placing scholarship behind paywalls has the effect of relegating new
> > advances in human knowledge to small academic communities. As more
> > academics allow their work to be shared freely, online secondary
> > sources like Wikipedia will play a large role disseminating the
> > knowledge to more people in new regions and on different devices.
> Yup. Perhaps worth mentioning that there was an entire Wikimania track 
> devoted to Open Scholarship this year (with a focus on Open Access; 
> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Scholarship ) and that 
> Wikimedia-related talks have been given at Open Access meetings (e.g.
> http://river-valley.zeeba.tv/transparency-in-measures-of-scientific-impact/
> or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Talks/COASP_2014
> ).
> 
> Last but not least, Open Access Week has a Wikidata item (
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2000002 ) and that Wikimedians have actively 
> participated in it in the past (e.g.
> https://p2pu.org/en/groups/open-access-wikipedia-challenge/ ).
> 
> Looking forward to the next version of your post, Daniel
> 
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