Everything was recorded.  Here it is, starting at 37:00:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzwlf_qKmc

   A.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, David Carroll <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don’t think it was recorded as it wasn’t in the main auditorium.
>
> Hopefully Daniel remembers the fourth reason.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> On 16 Oct 2014, at 19:26, Yana Welinder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks all! I'm sorry that I missed the OA panel at Wikimania. Does anyone
> know if there is a video of the panel?
>
> Thanks,
> Yana
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Melissa Hagemann <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yana,
>>
>> To build on Daniel's comment re inclusion of OA in Wikimania this year,
>> Jimmy spoke on an OA panel Daniel and I participated in. Jimmy gave four
>> great reasons as to why OA is important to Wikimedia. Unfortunately, I was
>> chairing the session, and didn't write them all down, but perhaps Daniel
>> remembers, as Jimmy framed his talk very well. I believe three of them were:
>>
>> OA is important to Wikimedia as it provides access to research in:
>> - developing countries
>> - everyone with Jack Andraka as an example
>> - the OA scholarly research which is made available which can be used to
>> develop WMF projects
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Melissa Hagemann
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Mietchen
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:42 AM
>> To: Open Access discussions
>> Subject: Re: [OpenAccess] Blog post on Open Access
>>
>>  Thanks, Yana. Comments inline.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Yana Welinder <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > We are doing a guest blog post on open access for EFF next week.
>> Cool!
>>
>> >
>> > Free as in Open Access and Wikipedia
>> >
>> >
>> > Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia sites are closely connected to open
>> > access ideals
>> "ideals" has a bit too much of a romantic connotation here. Something
>> like "goals" would be better, I think.
>>
>> > of making scholarship freely available and reusable. Consistent with
>> > these ideals, the Wikimedia sites make information available to
>> > internet users around the world free of charge in hundreds of
>> > languages. Wikimedia content can also be reused under its free
>> > licenses. The content is enriched by citations to open access
>> > scholarship, and the Wikimedia sites play a unique role in making
>> > academic learning easily available to the world. As the next
>> > generation of scholars embraces open access principles to become a
>> > true Generation Open,
>> - the video linked there is licensed -NC-ND (as displayed shortly before
>> the end, and contrary to the CC BY indicated in the metadata), so I would
>> not link to it.
>> - "true" in such contexts is also problematic, especially near non-open
>> licenses and considering that open access refers only to access to (some of
>> the) final outputs of research, rather than all outputs and the entire
>> process.
>>
>> > we will move closer to "a world in which every single human being can
>> > freely share in the sum of all knowledge."
>> >
>> >
>> > To write and edit Wikipedia, contributors need to access high quality
>> > independent sources. Unfortunately, paywalls and copyright
>> > restrictions often prevent the use of academic journals to write
>> > Wikipedia articles and enrich them with citations. Citations are
>> > particularly important to allow readers to verify Wikipedia articles
>> > and learn more about the topic from the underlying sources. Given the
>> > importance of open access to Wikipedia, the Wikimedia community of
>> > contributors has set up
>> I don't think that "set up" should be linked, and the link currently in
>> there is not a good fit anyway (it would fit better to the "importance of
>> open access to Wikipedia" phrase above or the "closely connected" one from
>> the introductory sentence, or the "reciprocal relationship" below).
>>
>> > a WikiProject Open Access to
>> > improve open access-related articles on Wikipedia
>> and to increase the reuse of open-access materials on Wikimedia platforms
>> more generally, e.g. as per
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Open_Access_Media_Importer_Bot
>> or
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_OA-ness
>> .
>> For an overview of activities, see the monthly reports at
>> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:This_Month_in_GLAM_Open_Access_reports
>> .
>>
>> > and create an Open Access
>> > Policy for research projects with the support of the Wikimedia
>> Foundation.
>> Those were not the goals of the creation of the WikiProject, and the
>> policy - which is still in draft stage, by the way - has not received
>> support from the Foundation, and that link is to a page that is misleading
>> in the context of this blog post, as it only clarifies the meaning of the
>> term "significant support" for the purposes of that draft policy.
>>
>> > Great potential lies in the reciprocal relationship between the open
>> > access scholarship that enriches Wikipedia and Wikipedia’s promotion
>> > of primary sources. As a secondary source, Wikipedia does not publish
>> > ideas or facts that are not supported by reliable and published
>> > sources. Wikipedia has tremendous power as a platform for relaying the
>> > outcomes of academic study by leading over 400 million monthly
>> > visitors to underlying scholarship cited in articles. Just as a
>> > traditional encyclopedia would, Wikipedia can make the underlying
>> > research easier to find. But unlike a traditional encyclopedia, it
>> > provides free access and free reuse to all. In that sense, Wikipedia is
>> an ideal secondary source for open access research.
>> Here, it would be appropriate to mention the Open Access Reader project:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Access_Reader .
>>
>> > In light of this, we are thrilled to see Generation Open blooming.
>> Not sure what you see blooming here.
>>
>> > The
>> > Digital Commons Network now boasts 1,109,355 works from 358
>> institutions.
>> Most of these are actually not openly licensed.
>>
>> > The Directory of Open Access Journals further has over 10,035 journals
>> "over 10,000" would be more appropriate.
>>
>> > from 135 countries.
>> >
>> > Esteemed law journals such as the Harvard Journal of Law and
>> > Technology, Berkeley Technology Law Journal, and Michigan Law Review
>> > subscribe to the Open Access Law Program, which encourages them to
>> > archive their articles under open access principles.
>> These journals archive their content under free-to-read principles, with
>> limited options for reuse. See also
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Open_Access_Initiative#Definition_of_open_access
>> .
>>
>> > Wikipedians are also contributing to the body of published open access
>> > scholarship. Earlier this month, four Wikipedians published an article
>> > on Dengue fever in Open Medicine (an open access and peer-reviewed
>> > journal) based on a Wikipedia article that was collaboratively edited
>> > by 1,369
>> "over 1,300" may be better here
>>
>> > volunteers and bots. In addition to providing an open access scholarly
>> > article on this important topic, this publication validated that
>> > Wikipedia's editorial process can produce high quality content outside
>> > traditional academia.
>> Yes.
>>
>> It is worth mentioning that many more Wikipedia articles already
>> incorporate text from openly licensed scholarly articles (cf.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_incorporating_text_from_open_access_publications
>> ) and that a subset thereof (cf.
>>
>> http://topicpages.ploscompbiol.org/wiki/Category:PLoS_Computational_Biology_articles
>> )
>> have actually been written by scholars for that purpose and published in
>> a peer-reviewed journal.
>>
>> > Placing scholarship behind paywalls has the effect of relegating new
>> > advances in human knowledge to small academic communities. As more
>> > academics allow their work to be shared freely, online secondary
>> > sources like Wikipedia will play a large role disseminating the
>> > knowledge to more people in new regions and on different devices.
>> Yup. Perhaps worth mentioning that there was an entire Wikimania track
>> devoted to Open Scholarship this year (with a focus on Open Access;
>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Scholarship ) and that
>> Wikimedia-related talks have been given at Open Access meetings (e.g.
>>
>> http://river-valley.zeeba.tv/transparency-in-measures-of-scientific-impact/
>> or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Talks/COASP_2014
>> ).
>>
>> Last but not least, Open Access Week has a Wikidata item (
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2000002 ) and that Wikimedians have
>> actively participated in it in the past (e.g.
>> https://p2pu.org/en/groups/open-access-wikipedia-challenge/ ).
>>
>> Looking forward to the next version of your post, Daniel
>>
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