Oh wow, thanks for that. I didn’t know it was recorded Thanks, David
On 16 Oct 2014, at 20:25, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]> wrote: > Everything was recorded. Here it is, starting at 37:00: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzwlf_qKmc > > A. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, David Carroll <[email protected]> > wrote: > Hi, > > I don’t think it was recorded as it wasn’t in the main auditorium. > > Hopefully Daniel remembers the fourth reason. > > Thanks, > David > > On 16 Oct 2014, at 19:26, Yana Welinder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks all! I'm sorry that I missed the OA panel at Wikimania. Does anyone >> know if there is a video of the panel? >> >> Thanks, >> Yana >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Melissa Hagemann >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Yana, >> >> To build on Daniel's comment re inclusion of OA in Wikimania this year, >> Jimmy spoke on an OA panel Daniel and I participated in. Jimmy gave four >> great reasons as to why OA is important to Wikimedia. Unfortunately, I was >> chairing the session, and didn't write them all down, but perhaps Daniel >> remembers, as Jimmy framed his talk very well. I believe three of them were: >> >> OA is important to Wikimedia as it provides access to research in: >> - developing countries >> - everyone with Jack Andraka as an example >> - the OA scholarly research which is made available which can be used to >> develop WMF projects >> >> Cheers, >> Melissa Hagemann >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Mietchen >> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:42 AM >> To: Open Access discussions >> Subject: Re: [OpenAccess] Blog post on Open Access >> >> Thanks, Yana. Comments inline. >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Yana Welinder <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > We are doing a guest blog post on open access for EFF next week. >> Cool! >> >> > >> > Free as in Open Access and Wikipedia >> > >> > >> > Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia sites are closely connected to open >> > access ideals >> "ideals" has a bit too much of a romantic connotation here. Something like >> "goals" would be better, I think. >> >> > of making scholarship freely available and reusable. Consistent with >> > these ideals, the Wikimedia sites make information available to >> > internet users around the world free of charge in hundreds of >> > languages. Wikimedia content can also be reused under its free >> > licenses. The content is enriched by citations to open access >> > scholarship, and the Wikimedia sites play a unique role in making >> > academic learning easily available to the world. As the next >> > generation of scholars embraces open access principles to become a >> > true Generation Open, >> - the video linked there is licensed -NC-ND (as displayed shortly before the >> end, and contrary to the CC BY indicated in the metadata), so I would not >> link to it. >> - "true" in such contexts is also problematic, especially near non-open >> licenses and considering that open access refers only to access to (some of >> the) final outputs of research, rather than all outputs and the entire >> process. >> >> > we will move closer to "a world in which every single human being can >> > freely share in the sum of all knowledge." >> > >> > >> > To write and edit Wikipedia, contributors need to access high quality >> > independent sources. Unfortunately, paywalls and copyright >> > restrictions often prevent the use of academic journals to write >> > Wikipedia articles and enrich them with citations. Citations are >> > particularly important to allow readers to verify Wikipedia articles >> > and learn more about the topic from the underlying sources. Given the >> > importance of open access to Wikipedia, the Wikimedia community of >> > contributors has set up >> I don't think that "set up" should be linked, and the link currently in >> there is not a good fit anyway (it would fit better to the "importance of >> open access to Wikipedia" phrase above or the "closely connected" one from >> the introductory sentence, or the "reciprocal relationship" below). >> >> > a WikiProject Open Access to >> > improve open access-related articles on Wikipedia >> and to increase the reuse of open-access materials on Wikimedia platforms >> more generally, e.g. as per >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Open_Access_Media_Importer_Bot >> or >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_OA-ness >> . >> For an overview of activities, see the monthly reports at >> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:This_Month_in_GLAM_Open_Access_reports >> . >> >> > and create an Open Access >> > Policy for research projects with the support of the Wikimedia Foundation. >> Those were not the goals of the creation of the WikiProject, and the policy >> - which is still in draft stage, by the way - has not received support from >> the Foundation, and that link is to a page that is misleading in the context >> of this blog post, as it only clarifies the meaning of the term "significant >> support" for the purposes of that draft policy. >> >> > Great potential lies in the reciprocal relationship between the open >> > access scholarship that enriches Wikipedia and Wikipedia’s promotion >> > of primary sources. As a secondary source, Wikipedia does not publish >> > ideas or facts that are not supported by reliable and published >> > sources. Wikipedia has tremendous power as a platform for relaying the >> > outcomes of academic study by leading over 400 million monthly >> > visitors to underlying scholarship cited in articles. Just as a >> > traditional encyclopedia would, Wikipedia can make the underlying >> > research easier to find. But unlike a traditional encyclopedia, it >> > provides free access and free reuse to all. In that sense, Wikipedia is an >> > ideal secondary source for open access research. >> Here, it would be appropriate to mention the Open Access Reader project: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Access_Reader . >> >> > In light of this, we are thrilled to see Generation Open blooming. >> Not sure what you see blooming here. >> >> > The >> > Digital Commons Network now boasts 1,109,355 works from 358 institutions. >> Most of these are actually not openly licensed. >> >> > The Directory of Open Access Journals further has over 10,035 journals >> "over 10,000" would be more appropriate. >> >> > from 135 countries. >> > >> > Esteemed law journals such as the Harvard Journal of Law and >> > Technology, Berkeley Technology Law Journal, and Michigan Law Review >> > subscribe to the Open Access Law Program, which encourages them to >> > archive their articles under open access principles. >> These journals archive their content under free-to-read principles, with >> limited options for reuse. See also >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Open_Access_Initiative#Definition_of_open_access >> . >> >> > Wikipedians are also contributing to the body of published open access >> > scholarship. Earlier this month, four Wikipedians published an article >> > on Dengue fever in Open Medicine (an open access and peer-reviewed >> > journal) based on a Wikipedia article that was collaboratively edited >> > by 1,369 >> "over 1,300" may be better here >> >> > volunteers and bots. In addition to providing an open access scholarly >> > article on this important topic, this publication validated that >> > Wikipedia's editorial process can produce high quality content outside >> > traditional academia. >> Yes. >> >> It is worth mentioning that many more Wikipedia articles already incorporate >> text from openly licensed scholarly articles (cf. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_articles_incorporating_text_from_open_access_publications >> ) and that a subset thereof (cf. >> http://topicpages.ploscompbiol.org/wiki/Category:PLoS_Computational_Biology_articles) >> have actually been written by scholars for that purpose and published in a >> peer-reviewed journal. >> >> > Placing scholarship behind paywalls has the effect of relegating new >> > advances in human knowledge to small academic communities. As more >> > academics allow their work to be shared freely, online secondary >> > sources like Wikipedia will play a large role disseminating the >> > knowledge to more people in new regions and on different devices. >> Yup. Perhaps worth mentioning that there was an entire Wikimania track >> devoted to Open Scholarship this year (with a focus on Open Access; >> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Scholarship ) and that >> Wikimedia-related talks have been given at Open Access meetings (e.g. >> http://river-valley.zeeba.tv/transparency-in-measures-of-scientific-impact/ >> or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Talks/COASP_2014 >> ). >> >> Last but not least, Open Access Week has a Wikidata item ( >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2000002 ) and that Wikimedians have actively >> participated in it in the past (e.g. >> https://p2pu.org/en/groups/open-access-wikipedia-challenge/ ). >> >> Looking forward to the next version of your post, Daniel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAccess mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAccess mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenAccess mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess > > David Carroll > Open Access Button Project Lead [email protected] > @davidecarroll > ---- > I prefer to use encrypted email. 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