On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Mark Nuzz <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Mark, I feel like you are goading me, trying to get me to loose my temper, and get angry. And you are being successful. My reply down below is WTF, we've been laying this stuff at your feet for a decade. All you have to do is get involved, instead of sniping from the sidelines. --linas On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Linas Vepstas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > > > > > The answer is "yes", but perhaps not the way you are expecting it. Its > not > > like we have some defined format for "semantic triples" or whatever. > There > > are a large number of rich data representation styles that have been > used in > > a variety of projects. The commonalities in all of these are expressed as > > "atomese". That is, the standard protocol is "atomese". > > That's exactly the type of thing I had in mind, actually (hence > serialization). Have you validated your assumption that the lack of > interest in the downloading of knowledge-bases is due to "nearly-zero > interest in knowledgebases", as you claim? Well, did you download any of them? > Or is it possible that the > atomese json files They are not in json. > are not providing enough expected utility? Utility to whom? For what purpose? What do you have in mind? > What can > one do with those files, currently? Well, 10 years ago I provided files that gave semantic annotations (wordnet) to parsed sentences. If that's what you needed to do, then I had data for you. More recently I provided files that gave a provisional grammar for Chinese (mandarin). Did you need a Chinese grammar for anything? I'm guessing you didn't. More abstractly, there is a docker file that allows you to run an earlier version of the Hanson Robtics software stack, called "Eva" back then (before the Eva movie came out) - you could interact with her on-screen, chat to her by irc, using your webcam on your laptop. Did anyone ever run this besides me? As far as I can tell, the answer is "no". Its not just about me me me -- other teams working with opencog have published various datasets, including some genomic data. Its still sitting there in some github repo somewhere. Last I looked, there were like 5 clones of this dataset. The loving AI project has maybe 9 clones, of which I think all 9 of which are actively involved project participants. No one outside of the project is interested in this data. > Can I simply drop them into a data > directory and have them be automatically consumed by OpenCog Yes. > or is > there a difficult process to get them to work? Yes. > Is atomspace able to > deduplicate imported atoms that are conceptually equivalent to atoms > already in the database, Yes. > but not exactly equal? > Ah hah! Trick question! "conceptually equivalent but not equal" Yes, the code can be found here: https://github.com/opencog/atomspace/tree/master/opencog/sheaf and here: https://github.com/opencog/opencog/blob/master/opencog/nlp/learn/scm/gram-class.scm this code is in active development. --linas -- *"The problem is not that artificial intelligence will get too smart and take over the world," computer scientist Pedro Domingos writes, "the problem is that it's too stupid and already has." * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "opencog" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/opencog. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/opencog/CAHrUA34tsGKL3o6%2BW0RXq8g7n%2B2haeM_0Qb4pvD1ZUZX2MWb4g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
