On 10/31/2017 02:52 AM, Mark Nuzz wrote:
I am involved - I have taken time to respond to questions by a number of new posters to the group, to the best of my ability, in good faith.
That is greatly appreciated.
You've expressed, a few posts back, clear frustration with the fact that people have close to zero interest in knowledge-bases. That doesn't make much sense to me, and the way you put it, shows that it is worth checking into. Knowledge bases, being a key component of any AGI system, are pretty damned mandatory if you want to experiment with an AI system that isn't a blank slate. So when you express an
Yes, just note that OpenCog's primary goal isn't to provide pre-built KBs, other projects do that like SUMO for instance http://www.adampease.org/OP/. OpenCog's primary goal is to provide the tools that can build such KBs from textual, sensory or whatever data. That said pre-built KBs can be very useful, fortunately it's usually not too much work to import them to atomese. Here's for instance a SUMO importer
https://github.com/opencog/external-tools/tree/master/SUMO_importer and an example using it https://github.com/opencog/opencog/tree/master/examples/pln/sumo Nil
apparently strong belief that this is not something people are interested in (even if you yourself are), then as a core developer you're less likely to put any work or polish into that feature. However, if the reason that people aren't interested is because there isn't enough work or polish into that feature, then perhaps if I can help you understand this, it would be very good for the project, so my efforts here would have some chances of adding a non-trivial amount of value, with the limited time that I am able to spare toward the cause. The open-source paradigm was designed precisely so that decisions, assumptions, beliefs, and implementations could be questioned openly, even "from the sidelines" as you put it. A component of the theory, which has not been proven false to my knowledge, is that it usually yields net positive value for the project, over the lifetime of the project. You can disagree with the points that I make, and I could be wrong, and my specific suggestions might even be a waste of time, but if that were the case, then I'd learn something new from it. And this has happened a few times already, resulting in my better understanding to the point of being more able to contribute or discuss in more meaningful ways. But in this case, it sounds like you're unhappy with the very idea that your ideas are being questioned in the first place. Besides, if it really was personal, any relevant questions I had would already be answered at that point, and it would be actions being done, not questions. You are probably spending too much time around passive-aggressive people or people who aren't very nice to you. Lighten up a bit and know who your real allies are in this game.
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