Sarah Connorh, I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, but forgive me to be that much direct.
It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is some unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without black, no music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth without a death, and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. Ideas don't just fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess for someone else to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, but not necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to conceive an idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted before using it. But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the things we want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, but the Universe is the one that levels everything afterwards (or beforewards). I hope this makes sense. In a hope that everything is OK, Ivan V. pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: > That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in. > > If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an idea, is it > fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission? > > pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao je: > >> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the humanity and can't be >> copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this idea) can be. (And >> even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every fields, not only IT, >> but i respect the choice of some people to get money for their work) >> >> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> Some ideas are result of a hard work. >>> >>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao >>> je: >>> >>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be protected, only a >>>> process. You can't protect the idea of "creating a Emotionnal AI" but you >>>> can protect your source code. >>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it and protect >>>> the WAY you do it. :) >>>> >>>> cheers ! >>>> >>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not interested in >>>>> getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still wouldn't talk about it >>>>> with >>>>> out protecting it. >>>>> .. >>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have the brand >>>>>> new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, don't do ever again the >>>>>> "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out of you you don't >>>>>> even >>>>>> imagine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the basics >>>>>> concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a real IA. you can >>>>>> find more on : https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/ >>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong place you >>>>>> should go on Teachers platform. >>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask people to >>>>>> sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself before trying to get >>>>>> people tested. >>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private message but >>>>>> i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY expensive :p ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll be back. >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong place. >>>>>>> Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from people that have >>>>>>> been very patient and helpful to a total noob. I am really grateful for >>>>>>> the help I have received in pointing me in the right direction in a >>>>>>> field >>>>>>> that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely other ways to find >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> people I am looking for. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a crap. The AGI >>>>>>>> isn't close to be finished. >>>>>>>> 2nd : You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you have to >>>>>>>> work too. >>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you even able >>>>>>>> to do a pathfinder bro ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here >>>>>>>>> considerably. Below is the start of what I hope to accomplish, and by >>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people doing" while >>>>>>>>> studying myself and >>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others will give >>>>>>>>> me related to what ever task is priority. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related project that >>>>>>>>> is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so lets talk on these >>>>>>>>> points for >>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward I will >>>>>>>>> need 2 personal references that I can verify by phone. Preferably a >>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder or a >>>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>> like it. >>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee and a >>>>>>>>> pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor since 1999. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each of these >>>>>>>>> points. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The AI: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Friend >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the car/phone/home/space >>>>>>>>> ship (wink), etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more >>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, perspiration, ect. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with it as well >>>>>>>>> as in the surrounding area surrounding area for emotional state and >>>>>>>>> anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for spying, but for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> safety of the user ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both >>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a better >>>>>>>>> word). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion in >>>>>>>>> general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for prioritizing >>>>>>>>> decisions, >>>>>>>>> weighed against its own cognitive processes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks like) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> consciousness >>>>>>>>> philosophy >>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>> religion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non theoretical quantum >>>>>>>>> physics >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my other >>>>>>>>> project later on this will all make more sense, but for now I can not >>>>>>>>> wait >>>>>>>>> to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis Michael >>>>>>>>> Faith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have extensive >>>>>>>>>> experience in the codebase. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Curtis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of Python, >>>>>>>>>>> building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some minor work >>>>>>>>>>> programming >>>>>>>>>>> micro processors. I have no formal computer science education, but >>>>>>>>>>> seem to >>>>>>>>>>> pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit of time on anything. >>>>>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>>>>> foremost a musician an artist with a strong marketing background. >>>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>>> launched and run several companies in my life and work well with a >>>>>>>>>>> team. I >>>>>>>>>>> have achieved many things with the help of others and by using >>>>>>>>>>> teams of >>>>>>>>>>> interns. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the top of my >>>>>>>>>>> bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put some money into >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a moderate disposable >>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of what is >>>>>>>>>>> needed in >>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the build >>>>>>>>>>> scripts are >>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked with >>>>>>>>>>> Linux before >>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen to that >>>>>>>>>>> and will >>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD I am just learning to find my way around the wiki >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces needed >>>>>>>>>>> before I >>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got most of >>>>>>>>>>> the way >>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports car. I have >>>>>>>>>>> a good chunk of free time to work on this. I am going to forgo >>>>>>>>>>> video gaming >>>>>>>>>>> and Netflix to focus on this. 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