cuz MONEY Ivan ! Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 20:47, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit :
> It should be an honor to contribute the society with a new valuable idea. > So why are we such a bastards? > > pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 20:38 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao je: > >> +1000 >> >> i'll be gees >> >> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:29, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> And I hate the fact that who first clues up an idea/process, has the >>> power to restrict its use by copyright. What if someone independently clues >>> up the same thing? Free sharing is fine then, I have no better way. >>> >>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:17 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: >>> >>>> Though, I have to admit, each of us owe a heaven for all the knowledge >>>> inherited from the history. >>>> >>>> But human bureaucracy is a stupid mess. Someone better have a smart >>>> idea on that behalf. >>>> >>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:10 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao >>>> je: >>>> >>>>> P.S : ooops forgive me for the last sentence, read too fast >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:09, Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> a >>>>> écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are shared by different >>>>>> creators in the time. Look at our history, many concepts were created >>>>>> multiple times at different location. Because we got "collective >>>>>> intelligence" and ideas are shared by mans, you can't say that one idea >>>>>> is >>>>>> yours, because it is the global knowledge of the entire humanity that put >>>>>> you there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many scientist can tell you >>>>>> they discover something trying to do another things. That's life shit >>>>>> happened, and good things thu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg. >>>>>> >>>>>> Everything is okey, but we can elevate the discussion above the "fok >>>>>> communism bureaucracy" thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sarah Connorh, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, >>>>>>> but forgive me to be that much direct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is >>>>>>> some unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without >>>>>>> black, no music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> a death, and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. Ideas >>>>>>> don't just fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess for >>>>>>> someone else to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, but >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to conceive >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted >>>>>>> before >>>>>>> using it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the >>>>>>> things we want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, but >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Universe is the one that levels everything afterwards (or beforewards). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a hope that everything is OK, >>>>>>> Ivan V. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao >>>>>>> je: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an idea, >>>>>>>> is it fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> napisao je: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the humanity and >>>>>>>>> can't be copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this idea) >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> be. (And even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every >>>>>>>>> fields, not >>>>>>>>> only IT, but i respect the choice of some people to get money for >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> work) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some ideas are result of a hard work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> napisao je: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be protected, >>>>>>>>>>> only a process. You can't protect the idea of "creating a >>>>>>>>>>> Emotionnal AI" >>>>>>>>>>> but you can protect your source code. >>>>>>>>>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it and >>>>>>>>>>> protect the WAY you do it. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> cheers ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not interested >>>>>>>>>>>> in getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still wouldn't talk >>>>>>>>>>>> about it >>>>>>>>>>>> with out protecting it. >>>>>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have the >>>>>>>>>>>>> brand new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, don't do >>>>>>>>>>>>> ever again >>>>>>>>>>>>> the "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out of you >>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> even imagine. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> basics concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a >>>>>>>>>>>>> real IA. you >>>>>>>>>>>>> can find more on : >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong place >>>>>>>>>>>>> you should go on Teachers platform. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask >>>>>>>>>>>>> people to sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself before >>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>> get people tested. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private >>>>>>>>>>>>> message but i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY >>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive :p ) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be back. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>> place. Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been very patient and helpful to a total noob. I am really >>>>>>>>>>>>>> grateful >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the help I have received in pointing me in the right >>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> field that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ways to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the people I am looking for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connorh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a crap. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AGI isn't close to be finished. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to work too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to do a pathfinder bro ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably. Below is the start of what I hope to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish, and by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing" while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studying myself and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will give me related to what ever task is priority. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so lets talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points for now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will need 2 personal references that I can verify by phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferably a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or a platform >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1999. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these points. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AI: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Friend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car/phone/home/space ship (wink), etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspiration, ect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as in the surrounding area surrounding area for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotional state and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for spying, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safety of the user ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better word). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prioritizing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions, weighed against its own cognitive processes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non theoretical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum physics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other project later on this will all make more sense, but for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now I can not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Faith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensive experience in the codebase. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of Python, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some minor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work programming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro processors. I have no formal computer science >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education, but seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit of time on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foremost a musician an artist with a strong marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> launched and run several companies in my life and work well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a team. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved many things with the help of others and by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using teams of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the top >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of my bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money into this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a moderate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disposable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is needed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build scripts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Linux before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that and will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD I am just learning to find my way around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed before I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports car. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a good chunk of free time to work on this. I am going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to forgo video >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming and Netflix to focus on this. 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