P.S : ooops forgive me for the last sentence, read too fast
Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:09, Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> a écrit : > Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are shared by different creators in > the time. Look at our history, many concepts were created multiple times at > different location. Because we got "collective intelligence" and ideas are > shared by mans, you can't say that one idea is yours, because it is the > global knowledge of the entire humanity that put you there. > > Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many scientist can tell you they > discover something trying to do another things. That's life shit happened, > and good things thu. > > Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg. > > Everything is okey, but we can elevate the discussion above the "fok > communism bureaucracy" thing. > > Regards > > > Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : > >> Sarah Connorh, >> >> I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, but >> forgive me to be that much direct. >> >> It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is some >> unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without black, no >> music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth without a death, >> and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. Ideas don't just >> fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess for someone else >> to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, but not >> necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to conceive an >> idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted before >> using it. >> >> But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the things we >> want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, but the Universe >> is the one that levels everything afterwards (or beforewards). >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> In a hope that everything is OK, >> Ivan V. >> >> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: >> >>> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in. >>> >>> If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an idea, is it >>> fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission? >>> >>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao >>> je: >>> >>>> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the humanity and can't be >>>> copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this idea) can be. (And >>>> even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every fields, not only IT, >>>> but i respect the choice of some people to get money for their work) >>>> >>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Some ideas are result of a hard work. >>>>> >>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>> napisao je: >>>>> >>>>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be protected, only >>>>>> a process. You can't protect the idea of "creating a Emotionnal AI" but >>>>>> you >>>>>> can protect your source code. >>>>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it and >>>>>> protect the WAY you do it. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not interested in >>>>>>> getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still wouldn't talk about it >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> out protecting it. >>>>>>> .. >>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have the >>>>>>>> brand new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, don't do ever >>>>>>>> again >>>>>>>> the "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out of you you >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> even imagine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the basics >>>>>>>> concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a real IA. you can >>>>>>>> find more on : https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/ >>>>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong place you >>>>>>>> should go on Teachers platform. >>>>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask people to >>>>>>>> sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself before trying to get >>>>>>>> people tested. >>>>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private message >>>>>>>> but i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY expensive :p ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll be back. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong place. >>>>>>>>> Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from people that >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> been very patient and helpful to a total noob. I am really grateful >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the help I have received in pointing me in the right direction in a >>>>>>>>> field >>>>>>>>> that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely other ways to >>>>>>>>> find the >>>>>>>>> people I am looking for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a crap. The >>>>>>>>>> AGI isn't close to be finished. >>>>>>>>>> 2nd : You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you have to >>>>>>>>>> work too. >>>>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you even able >>>>>>>>>> to do a pathfinder bro ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro ! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here >>>>>>>>>>> considerably. Below is the start of what I hope to accomplish, and >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people doing" >>>>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>> studying myself and >>>>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others will >>>>>>>>>>> give me related to what ever task is priority. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related project that >>>>>>>>>>> is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so lets talk on these >>>>>>>>>>> points for >>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward I will >>>>>>>>>>> need 2 personal references that I can verify by phone. Preferably a >>>>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder or a >>>>>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>>>> like it. >>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee and a >>>>>>>>>>> pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor since 1999. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each of these >>>>>>>>>>> points. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The AI: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Friend >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the car/phone/home/space >>>>>>>>>>> ship (wink), etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more >>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, perspiration, >>>>>>>>>>> ect. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with it as >>>>>>>>>>> well as in the surrounding area surrounding area for emotional >>>>>>>>>>> state and >>>>>>>>>>> anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for spying, but >>>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>>> safety of the user ) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both >>>>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a better >>>>>>>>>>> word). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion in >>>>>>>>>>> general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for prioritizing >>>>>>>>>>> decisions, >>>>>>>>>>> weighed against its own cognitive processes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks like) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> consciousness >>>>>>>>>>> philosophy >>>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>> religion >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non theoretical >>>>>>>>>>> quantum physics >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my other >>>>>>>>>>> project later on this will all make more sense, but for now I can >>>>>>>>>>> not wait >>>>>>>>>>> to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis Michael >>>>>>>>>>> Faith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have extensive >>>>>>>>>>>> experience in the codebase. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of Python, >>>>>>>>>>>>> building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some minor work >>>>>>>>>>>>> programming >>>>>>>>>>>>> micro processors. I have no formal computer science education, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>> pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit of time on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> foremost a musician an artist with a strong marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>> background. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>> launched and run several companies in my life and work well with >>>>>>>>>>>>> a team. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved many things with the help of others and by using >>>>>>>>>>>>> teams of >>>>>>>>>>>>> interns. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the top of my >>>>>>>>>>>>> bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put some money into >>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a moderate >>>>>>>>>>>>> disposable >>>>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of what is >>>>>>>>>>>>> needed in >>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the build >>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked with >>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux before >>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen to >>>>>>>>>>>>> that and will >>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD I am just learning to find my way around the >>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki and >>>>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces needed >>>>>>>>>>>>> before I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got most of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the way >>>>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports car. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good chunk of free time to work on this. I am going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> forgo video >>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming and Netflix to focus on this. 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