Wow what ever that is is really cool, lol thanks man. 

On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 4:00:26 PM UTC-5, Ivan V. wrote:
>
> Well, money this <https://ivanvodisek.github.io/orbiteque/index.html>, 
> humans. I have nothing to hide.
>
> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 21:38 Sarah Connorh <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> napisao je:
>
>> cuz MONEY Ivan ! 
>>
>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 20:47, Ivan V. <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> It should be an honor to contribute the society with a new valuable 
>>> idea. So why are we such a bastards?
>>>
>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 20:38 Sarah Connorh <[email protected] 
>>> <javascript:>> napisao je:
>>>
>>>> +1000
>>>>
>>>> i'll be gees
>>>>
>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:29, Ivan V. <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> And I hate the fact that who first clues up an idea/process, has the 
>>>>> power to restrict its use by copyright. What if someone independently 
>>>>> clues 
>>>>> up the same thing? Free sharing is fine then, I have no better way.
>>>>>
>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:17 Ivan V. <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>>>>> napisao je:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Though, I have to admit, each of us owe a heaven for all the 
>>>>>> knowledge inherited from the history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But human bureaucracy is a stupid mess. Someone better have a smart 
>>>>>> idea on that behalf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:10 Sarah Connorh <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <javascript:>> napisao je:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S : ooops forgive me for the last sentence, read too fast
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:09, Sarah Connorh <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are shared by different 
>>>>>>>> creators in the time. Look at our history, many concepts were created 
>>>>>>>> multiple times at different location. Because we got "collective 
>>>>>>>> intelligence" and ideas are shared by mans, you can't say that one 
>>>>>>>> idea is 
>>>>>>>> yours, because it is the global knowledge of the entire humanity that 
>>>>>>>> put 
>>>>>>>> you there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many scientist can tell you 
>>>>>>>> they discover something trying to do another things. That's life shit 
>>>>>>>> happened, and good things thu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything is okey, but we can elevate the discussion above the 
>>>>>>>> "fok communism bureaucracy" thing. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V. <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sarah Connorh,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, 
>>>>>>>>> but forgive me to be that much direct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is 
>>>>>>>>> some unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without 
>>>>>>>>> black, no music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth 
>>>>>>>>> without 
>>>>>>>>> a death, and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. 
>>>>>>>>> Ideas 
>>>>>>>>> don't just fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess 
>>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>>> someone else to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, 
>>>>>>>>> but not 
>>>>>>>>> necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to 
>>>>>>>>> conceive an 
>>>>>>>>> idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted 
>>>>>>>>> before 
>>>>>>>>> using it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the 
>>>>>>>>> things we want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, 
>>>>>>>>> but the 
>>>>>>>>> Universe is the one that levels everything afterwards (or 
>>>>>>>>> beforewards).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In a hope that everything is OK,
>>>>>>>>> Ivan V.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> napisao je:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an 
>>>>>>>>>> idea, is it fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> napisao je:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the  humanity and 
>>>>>>>>>>> can't be copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this 
>>>>>>>>>>> idea) can 
>>>>>>>>>>> be. (And even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every 
>>>>>>>>>>> fields, not 
>>>>>>>>>>> only IT, but i respect the choice of some people to get money for 
>>>>>>>>>>> their 
>>>>>>>>>>> work)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas are result of a hard work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> napisao je:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protected, only a process. You can't protect the idea of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "creating a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Emotionnal AI" but you can protect your source code.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and protect the WAY you do it. :) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't talk 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it with out protecting it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connorh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the brand new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do ever 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again the "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't even imagine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basics concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real IA. you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can find more on : 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place you should go on Teachers platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before trying to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get people tested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message but i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expensive :p )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place. Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been very patient and helpful to a total noob.  I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really grateful 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the help I have received in pointing me in the right 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other  ways to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the people I am looking for. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connorh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap. The AGI isn't close to be finished.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd :  You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to work too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even able to do a pathfinder bro ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably.  Below is the start of what I hope to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish, and by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing" while 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studying myself and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will give me related to what ever task is priority. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project that is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets talk on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these points for now. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will need 2 personal references that I can verify by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. Preferably a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or a platform 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since 1999.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these points.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AI:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car/phone/home/space ship (wink), etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspiration, ect. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as well as in the surrounding area surrounding area for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotional state 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spying, but for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the safety of the user ) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better word). 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prioritizing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions, weighed against its own cognitive processes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theoretical quantum physics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other project later on this will all make more sense, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for now I can not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait to hear what you have to say.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Faith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensive experience in the codebase.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Curtis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Python, building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming micro processors. I have no formal computer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science education, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but seem to pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of time on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. I am foremost a musician an  artist with a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong marketing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background.  I have launched and run several companies in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my life and work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well with a team. I have achieved many things with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help of others and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by using teams of interns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top of my bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some money into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moderate disposable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is needed in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build scripts are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Linux before 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that and will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD  I am just learning to find my way around 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed before I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of the way 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car. I have a good chunk of free time to work on this. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am going to forgo 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video gaming and Netflix to focus on this. I strongly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe, despite my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meager qualifications, that I can become an asset to this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long term and am willing to help others in any way I can. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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