And I hate the fact that who first clues up an idea/process, has the power to restrict its use by copyright. What if someone independently clues up the same thing? Free sharing is fine then, I have no better way.
pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:17 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: > Though, I have to admit, each of us owe a heaven for all the knowledge > inherited from the history. > > But human bureaucracy is a stupid mess. Someone better have a smart idea > on that behalf. > > pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 19:10 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> napisao je: > >> P.S : ooops forgive me for the last sentence, read too fast >> >> >> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 19:09, Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >>> Yeah pretty false, most of great ideas are shared by different creators >>> in the time. Look at our history, many concepts were created multiple times >>> at different location. Because we got "collective intelligence" and ideas >>> are shared by mans, you can't say that one idea is yours, because it is the >>> global knowledge of the entire humanity that put you there. >>> >>> Ideas litteraly fall from the sky. And many scientist can tell you they >>> discover something trying to do another things. That's life shit happened, >>> and good things thu. >>> >>> Btw i'm not a girl. I'm a cyborg. >>> >>> Everything is okey, but we can elevate the discussion above the "fok >>> communism bureaucracy" thing. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 18:54, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> >>>> Sarah Connorh, >>>> >>>> I know you are a girl and therefore super-smart regarding to boys, but >>>> forgive me to be that much direct. >>>> >>>> It happens that I suspect how ideas and visions are born. There is some >>>> unwritten Universe rule that says that there is no white without black, no >>>> music without a noise, no smile without a tear, no birth without a death, >>>> and as everything else, no good idea without a junk mess. Ideas don't just >>>> fall from the sky. Someone somewhere did a freaking mess for someone else >>>> to get a freaking good idea (could be the same person, but not >>>> necessarily). I'm of opinion that that someone who suffered to conceive an >>>> idea is in complete ownership of the same, and should be consulted before >>>> using it. >>>> >>>> But that's not how humans behave. We use what we can to get the things >>>> we want. Bureaucracy tries to protect sides from exploiting, but the >>>> Universe is the one that levels everything afterwards (or beforewards). >>>> >>>> I hope this makes sense. >>>> >>>> In a hope that everything is OK, >>>> Ivan V. >>>> >>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 18:00 Ivan V. <[email protected]> napisao je: >>>> >>>>> That's human burocracy mumbojumbo i don't believe in. >>>>> >>>>> If someone has dragged their soul through hell to produce an idea, is >>>>> it fair to be reluctant to use that idea without permission? >>>>> >>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:54 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>> napisao je: >>>>> >>>>>> But you can't protect it. An idea belong to the humanity and can't >>>>>> be copyrighted, only technical processes (linked to this idea) can be. >>>>>> (And >>>>>> even that, i don't share. I'm for open source in every fields, not only >>>>>> IT, >>>>>> but i respect the choice of some people to get money for their work) >>>>>> >>>>>> Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 17:51, Ivan V. <[email protected]> a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some ideas are result of a hard work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pet, 15. ožu 2019. u 17:01 Sarah Connorh <[email protected]> >>>>>>> napisao je: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PLUS : You gotta to know something. An IDEA CAN'T be protected, >>>>>>>> only a process. You can't protect the idea of "creating a Emotionnal >>>>>>>> AI" >>>>>>>> but you can protect your source code. >>>>>>>> Your IDEA is NOT protectable. You have to know HOW to do it and >>>>>>>> protect the WAY you do it. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> cheers ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le jeu. 14 mars 2019 à 16:25, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Funny thing is I do have a brand new idea but im not interested in >>>>>>>>> getting rich. It'ts probably stupid but I still wouldn't talk about >>>>>>>>> it with >>>>>>>>> out protecting it. >>>>>>>>> .. >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 9:21:45 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JRTA : Sorry but we saw people like you everyday that have the >>>>>>>>>> brand new IDEA that will make them rich. And seriously, don't do >>>>>>>>>> ever again >>>>>>>>>> the "come sign a contract" people will laugh the fuck out of you you >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> even imagine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Firstval a pathfinder isn't even an IA is just one of the basics >>>>>>>>>> concepts you have to understand before wanting to do a real IA. you >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> find more on : >>>>>>>>>> https://www.w3resource.com/c-programming-exercises/ >>>>>>>>>> 2nd : If you are looking for a teacher this is the wrong place >>>>>>>>>> you should go on Teachers platform. >>>>>>>>>> 3rd : If you have so much money or so good idea don't ask people >>>>>>>>>> to sign contract or stuff like that. Prove yourself before trying to >>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>> people tested. >>>>>>>>>> 4rd : La charue avant les boeufs is a french expression. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you need help i can provide you some advice in private message >>>>>>>>>> but i'm not a teacher i'm Engineer. (P.S i'm VERY expensive :p ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be back. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 20:54, JRTA <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will say, also, that it does seem like I am in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>> place. Despite that fact I have picked up some great info from >>>>>>>>>>> people that >>>>>>>>>>> have been very patient and helpful to a total noob. I am really >>>>>>>>>>> grateful >>>>>>>>>>> for the help I have received in pointing me in the right direction >>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>> field that is quite the rabbit hole. There are definitely other >>>>>>>>>>> ways to >>>>>>>>>>> find the people I am looking for. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:50:33 AM UTC-5, Sarah Connorh >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, could you stop marijuana ? :D >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Firstval : opencog, even if i love you guys, that's a crap. The >>>>>>>>>>>> AGI isn't close to be finished. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd : You can't pay someone to teach you everything, you have >>>>>>>>>>>> to work too. >>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd : Facial recognition voice recognition etc, are you even >>>>>>>>>>>> able to do a pathfinder bro ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't put "la charue avant les roues" bro ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ;) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 20:03, JRTA <[email protected]> a >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the response Curtis. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to stretch the definition of a mentor here >>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably. Below is the start of what I hope to accomplish, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and by >>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish I mean "pay, and, or manage many other people doing" >>>>>>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>> studying myself and >>>>>>>>>>>>> helping where ever I can through assignments you/others will >>>>>>>>>>>>> give me related to what ever task is priority. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My ultimate goal is a crowd funded separate/related project >>>>>>>>>>>>> that is more NN, bottom up, but this is Opencog so lets talk on >>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>> points for now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it seems like we are a fit and decide to move forward I >>>>>>>>>>>>> will need 2 personal references that I can verify by phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferably a >>>>>>>>>>>>> supervisor and a pastor. We should work through rent-a-coder or a >>>>>>>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>>>>>> like it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can provide you with references via a former employee and a >>>>>>>>>>>>> pastor from our church. I haven't had a supervisor since 1999. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can tell me your background through talking on each of >>>>>>>>>>>>> these points. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The AI: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Friend >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Located in the cloud to interact in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> car/phone/home/space ship (wink), etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Facial recognition. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Voice recognition >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Able to recognize police cars. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Recognize pedestrians >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Assist like: "hey google", Cortana, and Seri, but more >>>>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. No pun intended. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 9. Recognize bio signs, heart rate respiration, perspiration, >>>>>>>>>>>>> ect. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. Analyze user voice, and voices in conversation with it as >>>>>>>>>>>>> well as in the surrounding area surrounding area for emotional >>>>>>>>>>>>> state and >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else which it is able to discern. ( not for spying, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> safety of the user ) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. Recognize and respond to users emotional state both >>>>>>>>>>>>> therapeutically and in and effort to "relate" (for lack of a >>>>>>>>>>>>> better word). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. Utilize the users emotional state (as well as emotion in >>>>>>>>>>>>> general) as a physical/mathematical indicator for prioritizing >>>>>>>>>>>>> decisions, >>>>>>>>>>>>> weighed against its own cognitive processes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13. The AI should actively "study" (what ever that looks like) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> consciousness >>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy >>>>>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>>>> religion >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - and relate these back to theoretical and non theoretical >>>>>>>>>>>>> quantum physics >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am entirely serious. Should we end up talking about my other >>>>>>>>>>>>> project later on this will all make more sense, but for now I can >>>>>>>>>>>>> not wait >>>>>>>>>>>>> to hear what you have to say. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:37:33 PM UTC-5, Curtis Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>> Faith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are still looking let me know please. I have extensive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience in the codebase. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Curtis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 5:31 PM JRTA <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My coding experience is limited to the basics of Python, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a few web pages with Dreamweaver and some minor work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro processors. I have no formal computer science education, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but seem to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick things up intuitively once I spend a bit of time on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foremost a musician an artist with a strong marketing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> launched and run several companies in my life and work well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a team. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved many things with the help of others and by using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teams of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While overly ambitious, this project has been at the top of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my bucket list for a long time. I am willing to put some money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. I'm not wealthy by any means and have a moderate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disposable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income. Right now I feel like I'm missing some parts of what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ubuntu just to get started. Most of the commands in the build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not recognized. I am about 2 days into this, never worked with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Don't tell me I can't do it because I won't listen to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that and will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed do it. XD I am just learning to find my way around the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have probably missed some essential basic starting pieces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed before I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can build the project. I did do the manual build and got most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to fail at the end. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently work nights Ubering in a bad ass sports car. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a good chunk of free time to work on this. I am going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgo video >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gaming and Netflix to focus on this. 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