On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:44 AM Ivan V. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> As for the visualization tool, I'll have more time in a few weeks when I 
> settle some of my obligations.

You don't have to make promises!  There is no intent to guilt-trip you
into doing something.

> Then, a kind of OpenCog debugger (or IDE) is what I have on my mind.

In the end, whatever you create has to be for yourself, for your own
entertainment. If it turns out to be useful for others, that would be
wonderful, but, as this long conversation has shown, there's no
general vision of what anyone wants. Different people want different
things; what's useful for one is useless for another.

> It would be something like an atomspace editor communicating to cogserver, 
> showing inference trees related to edited fragments. Nothing too fancy, no 
> dozens of options, just a simple atomspace expressions writing aid, as 
> minimalistic as it can get, with an editor on the left and related inference 
> trees on the right side.

Two part reply.  (1) inference trees are very specific to the PLN
backward chainer, and have almost nothing to do with the atomspace.
(other than that they are kept in the atomspace ... for a while ..
until they are deleted. Nil can supply those if that is what you
really want.)

(2) Don't worry about the cogserver. Don't use the cogserver. Just
work with the atomspace directly. Why? (a) you don't need the
cogserver to get things done. (b) if you absolutely must have a
network connection to some remote AtomSpace, use the CogStorageNode
-- it will automatically open a network connection to a remote
AtomSpace, and it will automatically trade atoms with it, bringing
them over to your local AtomSpace. You just have to specify which
atoms. If you are not sure which atoms, you can easily run a query on
the remote AtomSpace.

Documentation:
https://wiki.opencog.org/w/CogStorageNode

Demos:
https://github.com/opencog/atomspace-cog/tree/master/examples

-- linas


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