No problem and sure this is the spirit. Thank you Mekkawy. I'll wait to hear from Unixmachanic and anyone else contributing in this.
-- AMahdy AbdElAziz http://www.AMahdy.net On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < [email protected]> wrote: > AMahdy, > > Nothing is personal, I'm just telling how it goes. May be I don't > contribute the best thing, but indeed I'll be happy to hand over to anyone > who contributes something better. I believe this is the spirit that should > be in such a group. > > On the other hand, mediawiki is currently installed on > http://wiki.openegypt.net with the username and pass openegypt / > openegypt123 . The registration is opened of course. I guess someone should > work on getting this wiki customized a little bit. If it's not needed then > someone tell me to bring it down. > > Thank you > > ---- > Ahmed Mekkawy > Founder | CTO > Spirula Systems > www.spirulasystems.com > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: > >> And for the hosting, if things are up and ok then fine, if not then I'm >> just saying that I can contribute a managed server and give FTP and SSH. So >> if there is a need, I can do that and Mekkawy will kindly point the domain >> to my hosting. >> >> -- >> AMahdy AbdElAziz >> http://www.AMahdy.net >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Haddi nafsak ya Mekkawy you took me totally wrong :D Don't take it >>> personal, am not shooting any questions at you, am just explaining to >>> everyone here what happened during the first time we tried to make a >>> website. I hope Unixmechanic don't fall into the same loop and end up with >>> people taking personal decisions and channels of communication instead of >>> using the website. I read his old emails, I actually read everything here >>> :-) >>> >>> For example a list of FOSS companies, there is this Google Sheet shared >>> here, will people keep using it or use the wiki? or they will use their own >>> internal emails? That's exactly a copy of what happened before and we will >>> find things diverted and not organized. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> AMahdy, >>>> >>>> Well I got the impression cause you wrote "we started something on the >>>> website but couldn't continue mainly because we needed to install a theme >>>> on the website. Since Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the >>>> server". >>>> If you meant anything other than throwing some blame, then I think you >>>> should elaborate :-) >>>> >>>> Actually it's unixmechanic who is working on the new site, and he >>>> already announced that on this mailing list. Please dig in the last few >>>> weeks mails and you'll find it out. I would appreciate if you coordinate >>>> with him instead of shooting these questions at me. About why did I give >>>> him a staging server to work on, it's only cause he asked. If you asked >>>> you'd have got it. >>>> >>>> The current website is contributed by ADEF, which is a drupal 7 >>>> installation. If you want to host it on your space then I'll give you the >>>> files and db, and tell me whenever you want to switch the DNS to you. Or if >>>> you prefer to host a new site, then tell me when you are ready. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Ahmed Mekkawy >>>> Founder | CTO >>>> Spirula Systems >>>> www.spirulasystems.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> And why you got the impression that I'm blaming you? :-) >>>>> Unavailability of FTP was a factor, but I stated other factors like >>>>> un-organized vision from the target of the website? >>>>> >>>>> I can host the website in my own managed server, and give FTP and SSH. >>>>> Would you point the domain to my space? >>>>> >>>>> For the website itself, if someone is already working on something >>>>> then great! But if there is nothing done yet, then why not bring the work >>>>> and communication in here regarding the exact target from the website? >>>>> Is it an interface to hold our contacts and communication channels? >>>>> Is it a blog with our announcements? Is it only a wiki? >>>>> Or is it a combination of those? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well I'm not sure why I get the impression that unavailability of FTP >>>>>> on the host was the thing that stopped all the work before :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I would appreciate if someone consider me just a volunteer in this >>>>>> group, I'm not responsible for providing certain facilities to the group >>>>>> or >>>>>> something similar, I'm volunteering with what I got, and anyone can offer >>>>>> stuff better than me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway I was (and still) hosting the website on a VPS that has lots >>>>>> of other websites, and I never install FTP on my servers, and I'm not >>>>>> willing to give anyone SSH access to my server cause it has more than 10 >>>>>> production servers. So anyone wants to get anything ready on a staging >>>>>> server (like the one I gave to unixmechanic, and to ADEF before) and give >>>>>> me files to upload to the current server, I would happily do it. If >>>>>> anyone >>>>>> needs FTP or other facilities that I don't have, then he's more than >>>>>> welcomed to offer hosting the website on his server and I'll happily >>>>>> point >>>>>> the domain to his server - after the group approval of course -. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand that AMahdy is doing a great job in this mailing list. >>>>>> Actually if I had time I would happily help him. I would urge anyone who >>>>>> can to help him in managing this mailing list. What he is doing has to be >>>>>> appreciated by all of us. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> Ahmed Mekkawy >>>>>> Founder | CTO >>>>>> Spirula Systems >>>>>> www.spirulasystems.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Added. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can do both insha'allah :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> List or FB? :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can help on that .. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI, right now I'm the only one administrating *this* group >>>>>>>>>>> with some help recently from Unixmechanic. >>>>>>>>>>> I said many times that this group receive a good amount of spam >>>>>>>>>>> and off topics (like invitation to linkedin or invitation to a >>>>>>>>>>> demonstration for ultras!!). This is the only reason that some >>>>>>>>>>> messages get >>>>>>>>>>> delayed. Because there is no enough people managing this group. >>>>>>>>>>> There are some trusted members who are set to send their >>>>>>>>>>> messages right away, and there are others who abuse it and must be >>>>>>>>>>> added to >>>>>>>>>>> moderation queue. New members are also added to the moderation >>>>>>>>>>> queue. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So I'm making a call again: if you can help in this PLEASE >>>>>>>>>>> contact me to add you as a manager. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've also opened this right now: >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/OpenEgypt and found many spammy posts >>>>>>>>>>> by admins again. Tried to remove them all and anyone willing to >>>>>>>>>>> manage this >>>>>>>>>>> page: please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Few years ago! we started something on the website but couldn't >>>>>>>>>>> continue mainly because we needed to install a theme on the >>>>>>>>>>> website. Since >>>>>>>>>>> Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the server, installing >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> trying themes was a big hassle. If there is no visible strategy on >>>>>>>>>>> what we >>>>>>>>>>> need to do and place on the website then I guess it's going to be a >>>>>>>>>>> waste >>>>>>>>>>> of time again. Do we want to make it like a blog about our info? Do >>>>>>>>>>> we want >>>>>>>>>>> it to be a forum? do we want it as just an interface for whoever >>>>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>>>> contact us and see who we are? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of course a wiki is a +1 but do you think a wiki is just enough? >>>>>>>>>>> do we need at least a homepage and a blog with latest announcements >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> contact us? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Mostafa Hussein < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what scrum or kanban are. I checked Kunagi and it >>>>>>>>>>>> seems to be an interesting project management software with lots of >>>>>>>>>>>> features, but I guess people on this list need to decide on what >>>>>>>>>>>> to use. >>>>>>>>>>>> One question that would need to be answered, is OpenEgypt a >>>>>>>>>>>> project? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I find a wiki the easiest tool and can be installed at >>>>>>>>>>>> wiki.openegypt.net lower learning curve etc.. or may be make >>>>>>>>>>>> use of the current drupal installation to have a wikilike area. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, I know some drupal and I can help with organising and >>>>>>>>>>>> entering data to the wiki, etc.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> M. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am re-posting my old proposal >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-We have a few open items, like we need a site, we need a >>>>>>>>>>>>> backlog of what we are supposed to be doing, we need a >>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki?(supposedly to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to write tutorials?) >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-We need to know among the individuals willing to contribute, >>>>>>>>>>>>> what time and skills are available. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3-I proposed in the past we do this in some agile form, maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> using a scrum or kanban or a mix. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One tool that is pretty good in managing backlog and is open >>>>>>>>>>>>> source is Kunagi, and it comes with a wiki. That gives us a wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>> , and a >>>>>>>>>>>>> backlog and also some history of what is in progress and simple >>>>>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>>>>> storage capabilities. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me with keeping track of who volunteers and what >>>>>>>>>>>>> they can do? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mustafa, >>>>>>>>>>>>> What can you help with? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:43:26 PM UTC+2, Mostafa Hussein >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's time to work on getting a wiki up for this list, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is needed to get this done? I think Mohamed Unixmechanic is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a CMS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will obviously be quite useful to have something like a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mediawiki up, similar to ADEF's one. I think Rayna suggested >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous email thread. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since, I am new here. Are there any other internet assets >>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked to this group? A website of any sorts? or is it ONLY this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> google >>>>>>>>>>>>>> group? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am willing to contribute, but at least know what is needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mostafa >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Tamer Zaki < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope so , as i think it is important to have a database >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all open source companies and field of expertise as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar Ali wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've a list by the companies that had a speak in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egyptian engineering syndicate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need a formal invitation to be sent from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenEgypt to all the people, companies and communities which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing the website of OpenEgypt, we need to engage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it with companies as mentioned in the previous email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 April 2013 12:11, Tamer Zaki <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a list of all companies working in open source >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and divided into categories ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tamer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it, send an email to openegypt+...@**googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. 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