AMahdy,

Nothing is personal, I'm just telling how it goes. May be I don't
contribute the best thing, but indeed I'll be happy to hand over to anyone
who contributes something better. I believe this is the spirit that should
be in such a group.

On the other hand, mediawiki is currently installed on
http://wiki.openegypt.net with the username and pass openegypt /
openegypt123 . The registration is opened of course. I guess someone should
work on getting this wiki customized a little bit. If it's not needed then
someone tell me to bring it down.

Thank you

----
Ahmed Mekkawy
Founder | CTO
Spirula Systems
www.spirulasystems.com


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]> wrote:

> And for the hosting, if things are up and ok then fine, if not then I'm
> just saying that I can contribute a managed server and give FTP and SSH. So
> if there is a need, I can do that and Mekkawy will kindly point the domain
> to my hosting.
>
> --
> AMahdy AbdElAziz
> http://www.AMahdy.net
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Haddi nafsak ya Mekkawy you took me totally wrong :D Don't take it
>> personal, am not shooting any questions at you, am just explaining to
>> everyone here what happened during the first time we tried to make a
>> website. I hope Unixmechanic don't fall into the same loop and end up with
>> people taking personal decisions and channels of communication instead of
>> using the website. I read his old emails, I actually read everything here
>> :-)
>>
>> For example a list of FOSS companies, there is this Google Sheet shared
>> here, will people keep using it or use the wiki? or they will use their own
>> internal emails? That's exactly a copy of what happened before and we will
>> find things diverted and not organized.
>>
>>
>> --
>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> AMahdy,
>>>
>>> Well I got the impression cause you wrote "we started something on the
>>> website but couldn't continue mainly because we needed to install a theme
>>> on the website. Since Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the 
>>> server".
>>> If you meant anything other than throwing some blame, then I think you
>>> should elaborate :-)
>>>
>>> Actually it's unixmechanic who is working on the new site, and he
>>> already announced that on this mailing list. Please dig in the last few
>>> weeks mails and you'll find it out. I would appreciate if you coordinate
>>> with him instead of shooting these questions at me. About why did I give
>>> him a staging server to work on, it's only cause he asked. If you asked
>>> you'd have got it.
>>>
>>> The current website is contributed by ADEF, which is a drupal 7
>>> installation. If you want to host it on your space then I'll give you the
>>> files and db, and tell me whenever you want to switch the DNS to you. Or if
>>> you prefer to host a new site, then tell me when you are ready.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Ahmed Mekkawy
>>> Founder | CTO
>>> Spirula Systems
>>> www.spirulasystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> And why you got the impression that I'm blaming you? :-)
>>>> Unavailability of FTP was a factor, but I stated other factors like
>>>> un-organized vision from the target of the website?
>>>>
>>>> I can host the website in my own managed server, and give FTP and SSH.
>>>> Would you point the domain to my space?
>>>>
>>>> For the website itself, if someone is already working on something then
>>>> great! But if there is nothing done yet, then why not bring the work and
>>>> communication in here regarding the exact target from the website?
>>>> Is it an interface to hold our contacts and communication channels?
>>>> Is it a blog with our announcements? Is it only a wiki?
>>>> Or is it a combination of those?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well I'm not sure why I get the impression that unavailability of FTP
>>>>> on the host was the thing that stopped all the work before :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate if someone consider me just a volunteer in this
>>>>> group, I'm not responsible for providing certain facilities to the group 
>>>>> or
>>>>> something similar, I'm volunteering with what I got, and anyone can offer
>>>>> stuff better than me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I was (and still) hosting the website on a VPS that has lots of
>>>>> other websites, and I never install FTP on my servers, and I'm not willing
>>>>> to give anyone SSH access to my server cause it has more than 10 
>>>>> production
>>>>> servers. So anyone wants to get anything ready on a staging server (like
>>>>> the one I gave to unixmechanic, and to ADEF before) and give me files to
>>>>> upload to the current server, I would happily do it. If anyone needs FTP 
>>>>> or
>>>>> other facilities that I don't have, then he's more than welcomed to offer
>>>>> hosting the website on his server and I'll happily point the domain to his
>>>>> server - after the group approval of course -.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that AMahdy is doing a great job in this mailing list.
>>>>> Actually if I had time I would happily help him. I would urge anyone who
>>>>> can to help him in managing this mailing list. What he is doing has to be
>>>>> appreciated by all of us.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Ahmed Mekkawy
>>>>> Founder | CTO
>>>>> Spirula Systems
>>>>> www.spirulasystems.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can do both insha'allah :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> List or FB? :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can help on that ..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI, right now I'm the only one administrating *this* group
>>>>>>>>>> with some help recently from Unixmechanic.
>>>>>>>>>> I said many times that this group receive a good amount of spam
>>>>>>>>>> and off topics (like invitation to linkedin or invitation to a
>>>>>>>>>> demonstration for ultras!!). This is the only reason that some 
>>>>>>>>>> messages get
>>>>>>>>>> delayed. Because there is no enough people managing this group.
>>>>>>>>>> There are some trusted members who are set to send their messages
>>>>>>>>>> right away, and there are others who abuse it and must be added to
>>>>>>>>>> moderation queue. New members are also added to the moderation queue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I'm making a call again: if you can help in this PLEASE
>>>>>>>>>> contact me to add you as a manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also opened this right now:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/OpenEgypt and found many spammy posts
>>>>>>>>>> by admins again. Tried to remove them all and anyone willing to 
>>>>>>>>>> manage this
>>>>>>>>>> page: please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Few years ago! we started something on the website but couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> continue mainly because we needed to install a theme on the website. 
>>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>>> Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the server, installing 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> trying themes was a big hassle. If there is no visible strategy on 
>>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>>> need to do and place on the website then I guess it's going to be a 
>>>>>>>>>> waste
>>>>>>>>>> of time again. Do we want to make it like a blog about our info? Do 
>>>>>>>>>> we want
>>>>>>>>>> it to be a forum? do we want it as just an interface for whoever 
>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>> contact us and see who we are?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course a wiki is a +1 but do you think a wiki is just enough?
>>>>>>>>>> do we need at least a homepage and a blog with latest announcements 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> contact us?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Mostafa Hussein <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what scrum or kanban are. I checked Kunagi and it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems to be an interesting project management software with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>> features, but I guess people on this list need to decide on what to 
>>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>>> One question that would need to be answered, is OpenEgypt a project?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I find a wiki the easiest tool and can be installed at
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki.openegypt.net lower learning curve etc.. or may be make
>>>>>>>>>>> use of the current drupal installation to have a wikilike area.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, I know some drupal and I can help with organising and
>>>>>>>>>>> entering data to the wiki, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am re-posting my old proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-We have a few open items, like we need a site, we need a
>>>>>>>>>>>> backlog of what we are supposed to be doing, we need a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki?(supposedly to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to write tutorials?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-We need to know among the individuals willing to contribute,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what time and skills are available.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3-I proposed in the past we do this in some agile form, maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> using a scrum or kanban or a mix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One tool that is pretty good in managing backlog and is open
>>>>>>>>>>>> source is Kunagi, and it comes with a wiki. That gives us a wiki , 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>>>>>> backlog and also some history of what is in progress and simple 
>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>> storage capabilities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me with keeping track of who volunteers and what
>>>>>>>>>>>> they can do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mustafa,
>>>>>>>>>>>> What can you help with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:43:26 PM UTC+2, Mostafa Hussein
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's time to work on getting a wiki up for this list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is needed to get this done? I think Mohamed Unixmechanic is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a CMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will obviously be quite useful to have something like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mediawiki up, similar to ADEF's one. I think Rayna suggested this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous email thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since, I am new here. Are there any other internet assets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linked to this group? A website of any sorts? or is it ONLY this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am willing to contribute, but at least know what is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mostafa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Tamer Zaki <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I hope so , as i think it is important to have a database
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all open source companies and field of expertise as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar Ali wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  We've a list by the companies that had a speak in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egyptian engineering syndicate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I think we need a formal invitation to be sent from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenEgypt to all the people, companies and communities which 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Another thing the website of OpenEgypt, we need to engage it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with companies as mentioned in the previous email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 April 2013 12:11, Tamer Zaki <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Good Morning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Is there a list of all companies working in open source and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divided into categories ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tamer
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