And for the hosting, if things are up and ok then fine, if not then I'm
just saying that I can contribute a managed server and give FTP and SSH. So
if there is a need, I can do that and Mekkawy will kindly point the domain
to my hosting.

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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Haddi nafsak ya Mekkawy you took me totally wrong :D Don't take it
> personal, am not shooting any questions at you, am just explaining to
> everyone here what happened during the first time we tried to make a
> website. I hope Unixmechanic don't fall into the same loop and end up with
> people taking personal decisions and channels of communication instead of
> using the website. I read his old emails, I actually read everything here
> :-)
>
> For example a list of FOSS companies, there is this Google Sheet shared
> here, will people keep using it or use the wiki? or they will use their own
> internal emails? That's exactly a copy of what happened before and we will
> find things diverted and not organized.
>
>
> --
> AMahdy AbdElAziz
> http://www.AMahdy.net
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> AMahdy,
>>
>> Well I got the impression cause you wrote "we started something on the
>> website but couldn't continue mainly because we needed to install a theme
>> on the website. Since Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the 
>> server".
>> If you meant anything other than throwing some blame, then I think you
>> should elaborate :-)
>>
>> Actually it's unixmechanic who is working on the new site, and he already
>> announced that on this mailing list. Please dig in the last few weeks mails
>> and you'll find it out. I would appreciate if you coordinate with him
>> instead of shooting these questions at me. About why did I give him a
>> staging server to work on, it's only cause he asked. If you asked you'd
>> have got it.
>>
>> The current website is contributed by ADEF, which is a drupal 7
>> installation. If you want to host it on your space then I'll give you the
>> files and db, and tell me whenever you want to switch the DNS to you. Or if
>> you prefer to host a new site, then tell me when you are ready.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ----
>> Ahmed Mekkawy
>> Founder | CTO
>> Spirula Systems
>> www.spirulasystems.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> And why you got the impression that I'm blaming you? :-)
>>> Unavailability of FTP was a factor, but I stated other factors like
>>> un-organized vision from the target of the website?
>>>
>>> I can host the website in my own managed server, and give FTP and SSH.
>>> Would you point the domain to my space?
>>>
>>> For the website itself, if someone is already working on something then
>>> great! But if there is nothing done yet, then why not bring the work and
>>> communication in here regarding the exact target from the website?
>>> Is it an interface to hold our contacts and communication channels?
>>> Is it a blog with our announcements? Is it only a wiki?
>>> Or is it a combination of those?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I'm not sure why I get the impression that unavailability of FTP
>>>> on the host was the thing that stopped all the work before :)
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate if someone consider me just a volunteer in this
>>>> group, I'm not responsible for providing certain facilities to the group or
>>>> something similar, I'm volunteering with what I got, and anyone can offer
>>>> stuff better than me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I was (and still) hosting the website on a VPS that has lots of
>>>> other websites, and I never install FTP on my servers, and I'm not willing
>>>> to give anyone SSH access to my server cause it has more than 10 production
>>>> servers. So anyone wants to get anything ready on a staging server (like
>>>> the one I gave to unixmechanic, and to ADEF before) and give me files to
>>>> upload to the current server, I would happily do it. If anyone needs FTP or
>>>> other facilities that I don't have, then he's more than welcomed to offer
>>>> hosting the website on his server and I'll happily point the domain to his
>>>> server - after the group approval of course -.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand that AMahdy is doing a great job in this mailing list.
>>>> Actually if I had time I would happily help him. I would urge anyone who
>>>> can to help him in managing this mailing list. What he is doing has to be
>>>> appreciated by all of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Ahmed Mekkawy
>>>> Founder | CTO
>>>> Spirula Systems
>>>> www.spirulasystems.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can do both insha'allah :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> List or FB? :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can help on that ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just FYI, right now I'm the only one administrating *this* group
>>>>>>>>> with some help recently from Unixmechanic.
>>>>>>>>> I said many times that this group receive a good amount of spam
>>>>>>>>> and off topics (like invitation to linkedin or invitation to a
>>>>>>>>> demonstration for ultras!!). This is the only reason that some 
>>>>>>>>> messages get
>>>>>>>>> delayed. Because there is no enough people managing this group.
>>>>>>>>> There are some trusted members who are set to send their messages
>>>>>>>>> right away, and there are others who abuse it and must be added to
>>>>>>>>> moderation queue. New members are also added to the moderation queue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So I'm making a call again: if you can help in this PLEASE contact
>>>>>>>>> me to add you as a manager.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've also opened this right now:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/OpenEgypt and found many spammy posts by
>>>>>>>>> admins again. Tried to remove them all and anyone willing to manage 
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> page: please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Few years ago! we started something on the website but couldn't
>>>>>>>>> continue mainly because we needed to install a theme on the website. 
>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>> Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the server, installing and
>>>>>>>>> trying themes was a big hassle. If there is no visible strategy on 
>>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>>> need to do and place on the website then I guess it's going to be a 
>>>>>>>>> waste
>>>>>>>>> of time again. Do we want to make it like a blog about our info? Do 
>>>>>>>>> we want
>>>>>>>>> it to be a forum? do we want it as just an interface for whoever want 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> contact us and see who we are?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course a wiki is a +1 but do you think a wiki is just enough?
>>>>>>>>> do we need at least a homepage and a blog with latest announcements 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> contact us?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Mostafa Hussein <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what scrum or kanban are. I checked Kunagi and it
>>>>>>>>>> seems to be an interesting project management software with lots of
>>>>>>>>>> features, but I guess people on this list need to decide on what to 
>>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>> One question that would need to be answered, is OpenEgypt a project?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I find a wiki the easiest tool and can be installed at
>>>>>>>>>> wiki.openegypt.net lower learning curve etc.. or may be make use
>>>>>>>>>> of the current drupal installation to have a wikilike area.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, I know some drupal and I can help with organising and
>>>>>>>>>> entering data to the wiki, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am re-posting my old proposal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1-We have a few open items, like we need a site, we need a
>>>>>>>>>>> backlog of what we are supposed to be doing, we need a 
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki?(supposedly to
>>>>>>>>>>> be able to write tutorials?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 2-We need to know among the individuals willing to contribute,
>>>>>>>>>>> what time and skills are available.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3-I proposed in the past we do this in some agile form, maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> using a scrum or kanban or a mix.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One tool that is pretty good in managing backlog and is open
>>>>>>>>>>> source is Kunagi, and it comes with a wiki. That gives us a wiki , 
>>>>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>>>>> backlog and also some history of what is in progress and simple file
>>>>>>>>>>> storage capabilities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samar,
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me with keeping track of who volunteers and what
>>>>>>>>>>> they can do?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mustafa,
>>>>>>>>>>> What can you help with?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:43:26 PM UTC+2, Mostafa Hussein wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's time to work on getting a wiki up for this list,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is needed to get this done? I think Mohamed Unixmechanic is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>>>>>>> a CMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will obviously be quite useful to have something like a
>>>>>>>>>>>> mediawiki up, similar to ADEF's one. I think Rayna suggested this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> previous email thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since, I am new here. Are there any other internet assets
>>>>>>>>>>>> linked to this group? A website of any sorts? or is it ONLY this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>>>>> group?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am willing to contribute, but at least know what is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mostafa
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Tamer Zaki <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I hope so , as i think it is important to have a database
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all open source companies and field of expertise as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar Ali wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  We've a list by the companies that had a speak in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egyptian engineering syndicate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I think we need a formal invitation to be sent from OpenEgypt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to all the people, companies and communities which signed on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> petition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Another thing the website of OpenEgypt, we need to engage it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with companies as mentioned in the previous email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 April 2013 12:11, Tamer Zaki <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Good Morning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Is there a list of all companies working in open source and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divided into categories ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tamer
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