Haddi nafsak ya Mekkawy you took me totally wrong :D Don't take it
personal, am not shooting any questions at you, am just explaining to
everyone here what happened during the first time we tried to make a
website. I hope Unixmechanic don't fall into the same loop and end up with
people taking personal decisions and channels of communication instead of
using the website. I read his old emails, I actually read everything here
:-)

For example a list of FOSS companies, there is this Google Sheet shared
here, will people keep using it or use the wiki? or they will use their own
internal emails? That's exactly a copy of what happened before and we will
find things diverted and not organized.


--
AMahdy AbdElAziz
http://www.AMahdy.net


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> AMahdy,
>
> Well I got the impression cause you wrote "we started something on the
> website but couldn't continue mainly because we needed to install a theme
> on the website. Since Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the server".
> If you meant anything other than throwing some blame, then I think you
> should elaborate :-)
>
> Actually it's unixmechanic who is working on the new site, and he already
> announced that on this mailing list. Please dig in the last few weeks mails
> and you'll find it out. I would appreciate if you coordinate with him
> instead of shooting these questions at me. About why did I give him a
> staging server to work on, it's only cause he asked. If you asked you'd
> have got it.
>
> The current website is contributed by ADEF, which is a drupal 7
> installation. If you want to host it on your space then I'll give you the
> files and db, and tell me whenever you want to switch the DNS to you. Or if
> you prefer to host a new site, then tell me when you are ready.
>
> Regards,
>
> ----
> Ahmed Mekkawy
> Founder | CTO
> Spirula Systems
> www.spirulasystems.com
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> And why you got the impression that I'm blaming you? :-)
>> Unavailability of FTP was a factor, but I stated other factors like
>> un-organized vision from the target of the website?
>>
>> I can host the website in my own managed server, and give FTP and SSH.
>> Would you point the domain to my space?
>>
>> For the website itself, if someone is already working on something then
>> great! But if there is nothing done yet, then why not bring the work and
>> communication in here regarding the exact target from the website?
>> Is it an interface to hold our contacts and communication channels?
>> Is it a blog with our announcements? Is it only a wiki?
>> Or is it a combination of those?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> --
>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Ahmed Mekkawy <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I'm not sure why I get the impression that unavailability of FTP on
>>> the host was the thing that stopped all the work before :)
>>>
>>> I would appreciate if someone consider me just a volunteer in this
>>> group, I'm not responsible for providing certain facilities to the group or
>>> something similar, I'm volunteering with what I got, and anyone can offer
>>> stuff better than me.
>>>
>>> Anyway I was (and still) hosting the website on a VPS that has lots of
>>> other websites, and I never install FTP on my servers, and I'm not willing
>>> to give anyone SSH access to my server cause it has more than 10 production
>>> servers. So anyone wants to get anything ready on a staging server (like
>>> the one I gave to unixmechanic, and to ADEF before) and give me files to
>>> upload to the current server, I would happily do it. If anyone needs FTP or
>>> other facilities that I don't have, then he's more than welcomed to offer
>>> hosting the website on his server and I'll happily point the domain to his
>>> server - after the group approval of course -.
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand that AMahdy is doing a great job in this mailing list.
>>> Actually if I had time I would happily help him. I would urge anyone who
>>> can to help him in managing this mailing list. What he is doing has to be
>>> appreciated by all of us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Ahmed Mekkawy
>>> Founder | CTO
>>> Spirula Systems
>>> www.spirulasystems.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Added.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can do both insha'allah :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> List or FB? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Eslam Diaa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can help on that ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM, AMahdy AbdElAziz <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just FYI, right now I'm the only one administrating *this* group
>>>>>>>> with some help recently from Unixmechanic.
>>>>>>>> I said many times that this group receive a good amount of spam and
>>>>>>>> off topics (like invitation to linkedin or invitation to a 
>>>>>>>> demonstration
>>>>>>>> for ultras!!). This is the only reason that some messages get delayed.
>>>>>>>> Because there is no enough people managing this group.
>>>>>>>> There are some trusted members who are set to send their messages
>>>>>>>> right away, and there are others who abuse it and must be added to
>>>>>>>> moderation queue. New members are also added to the moderation queue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I'm making a call again: if you can help in this PLEASE contact
>>>>>>>> me to add you as a manager.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've also opened this right now: https://www.facebook.com/OpenEgyptand 
>>>>>>>> found many spammy posts by admins again. Tried to remove them all and
>>>>>>>> anyone willing to manage this page: please let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Few years ago! we started something on the website but couldn't
>>>>>>>> continue mainly because we needed to install a theme on the website. 
>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>> Mekkawy refused to give us an FTP access to the server, installing and
>>>>>>>> trying themes was a big hassle. If there is no visible strategy on 
>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>> need to do and place on the website then I guess it's going to be a 
>>>>>>>> waste
>>>>>>>> of time again. Do we want to make it like a blog about our info? Do we 
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> it to be a forum? do we want it as just an interface for whoever want 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> contact us and see who we are?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course a wiki is a +1 but do you think a wiki is just enough? do
>>>>>>>> we need at least a homepage and a blog with latest announcements and
>>>>>>>> contact us?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> AMahdy AbdElAziz
>>>>>>>> http://www.AMahdy.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Mostafa Hussein 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mohamed,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know what scrum or kanban are. I checked Kunagi and it
>>>>>>>>> seems to be an interesting project management software with lots of
>>>>>>>>> features, but I guess people on this list need to decide on what to 
>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>> One question that would need to be answered, is OpenEgypt a project?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I find a wiki the easiest tool and can be installed at
>>>>>>>>> wiki.openegypt.net lower learning curve etc.. or may be make use
>>>>>>>>> of the current drupal installation to have a wikilike area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, I know some drupal and I can help with organising and entering
>>>>>>>>> data to the wiki, etc..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am re-posting my old proposal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1-We have a few open items, like we need a site, we need a
>>>>>>>>>> backlog of what we are supposed to be doing, we need a 
>>>>>>>>>> wiki?(supposedly to
>>>>>>>>>> be able to write tutorials?)
>>>>>>>>>> 2-We need to know among the individuals willing to contribute,
>>>>>>>>>> what time and skills are available.
>>>>>>>>>> 3-I proposed in the past we do this in some agile form, maybe
>>>>>>>>>> using a scrum or kanban or a mix.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One tool that is pretty good in managing backlog and is open
>>>>>>>>>> source is Kunagi, and it comes with a wiki. That gives us a wiki , 
>>>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>>>> backlog and also some history of what is in progress and simple file
>>>>>>>>>> storage capabilities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samar,
>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me with keeping track of who volunteers and what
>>>>>>>>>> they can do?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mustafa,
>>>>>>>>>> What can you help with?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:43:26 PM UTC+2, Mostafa Hussein wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's time to work on getting a wiki up for this list,
>>>>>>>>>>> what is needed to get this done? I think Mohamed Unixmechanic is 
>>>>>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>>>>>> a CMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It will obviously be quite useful to have something like a
>>>>>>>>>>> mediawiki up, similar to ADEF's one. I think Rayna suggested this 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>> previous email thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since, I am new here. Are there any other internet assets linked
>>>>>>>>>>> to this group? A website of any sorts? or is it ONLY this google 
>>>>>>>>>>> group?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am willing to contribute, but at least know what is needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mostafa
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Tamer Zaki <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I hope so , as i think it is important to have a database with
>>>>>>>>>>>> all open source companies and field of expertise as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar Ali wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  We've a list by the companies that had a speak in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Egyptian engineering syndicate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I think we need a formal invitation to be sent from OpenEgypt
>>>>>>>>>>>> to all the people, companies and communities which signed on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> petition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Another thing the website of OpenEgypt, we need to engage it
>>>>>>>>>>>> with companies as mentioned in the previous email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 April 2013 12:11, Tamer Zaki <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Good Morning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Is there a list of all companies working in open source and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> divided into categories ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tamer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to openegypt+...@**googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> With My Respect,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samar Ali
>>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to openegypt+...@**googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank You
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tamer Zaki202 26 43 4016
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This email transmission contains privileged and confidential 
>>>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>> intended only for the use of the individual or entities named 
>>>>>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If this email was received in error or if read by a party which is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dissemination,
>>>>>>>>>>>> disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly prohibited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to openegypt+...@**googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> groups/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected].
>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>>>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected].
>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected].
>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "Eslam Mohamed Diaa"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Software Engineer - web developer
>>>>>>> Jeddah Governorate - Saudi Arabia
>>>>>>> +966558273876
>>>>>>> +201112448576
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trying to be better .. more & more ... !!
>>>>>>> http://esl4m.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> twitter: esl4mdiaa
>>>>>>> g+ : iplus.im/esl4m
>>>>>>> GDGMansoura <iplus.im/gdgmansoura/> leader
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Eslam Mohamed Diaa"
>>>>>
>>>>> Software Engineer - web developer
>>>>> Jeddah Governorate - Saudi Arabia
>>>>> +966558273876
>>>>> +201112448576
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to be better .. more & more ... !!
>>>>> http://esl4m.com
>>>>>
>>>>> twitter: esl4mdiaa
>>>>> g+ : iplus.im/esl4m
>>>>> GDGMansoura <iplus.im/gdgmansoura/> leader
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>>> an email to [email protected].
>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "OpenEgypt" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to [email protected].
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "OpenEgypt" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to [email protected].
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>
>>
>>
>
>  --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "OpenEgypt" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to [email protected].
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"OpenEgypt" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


رد على