Thanks Gerard,

That is very positive and helpful.  Would you consider adjusting to ‘
openEHR is a not-for-profit company established by UCL’ which I hope
captures your reservations about single ownership without giving the
impression that this is a 'for-profit 'company?

Ian

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On 7 September 2015 at 14:38, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Ian,
>
> As I wrote you privately I promised to think over my use of words.
>
> Referring to my e-mail with the definition, as I used it, plus the quote
> from the openEHR website,
> it must have been clear that I was pointing at ownership of the openEHR
> organisation.
>
> I’m aware now, that ‘proprietary’ has an other, different, meaning, when
> applied to software or specifications.
> My original e-mail conveyed an unintended meaning, is my conclusion.
>  Therefore I will no longer use the word ‘proprietary’ but the phrase ‘
> openEHR as a company owned by UCL’.
>
> With regards,
>
>  Gerard
>
> Gerard Freriks
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>
> On 3 sep. 2015, at 02:07, Ian McNicoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Bert,
>
> I am certainly conscious of rumours. Some of these are due to general
> suspicion of open source licensing (and we can, I think, do more to
> alleviate this)  but I am afraid some of anxiety is also caused by
> inaccurate and misleading information "openEHR is proprietary",  regularly
> stated by a small number of individuals. I have had to ask for these to be
> corrected in a number of documents e.g. The SemanticHealthNet report where
> it was agreed by the principal authors, including Dipak, to be incorrect.
>
> Since a significant number of companies and national organisations now
> make use of openEHR specifications or artefacts, these statements are being
> regarded as commercially hostile and the Foundation Boards both agree that
> legal action should now be taken where the authors are not prepared to
> promptly correct this inaccuracy.
>
> Leaving that aside. I am not convinced that ISO is a good home for
> openEHR. The specifications, development and revision process in ISO remain
> completely closed and quite at odds withopenEHR principles but I would be
> interested in other's views.
>
> I do think that some sort of association with a formal standards body
> would help alleviate some of the anxieties you mention (though these are
> imaginary) but I am not sure that ISO would be my first choice as it is
> currently constructed. I will raise the issue of whether to submit AOM2
> with the Management Board.
>
> I am interested in other people's opinions.
>
> Ian
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
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> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
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>
> On 1 September 2015 at 16:48, Bert Verhees <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 01-09-15 17:16, Bert Verhees wrote:
>>
>>> I have written a text (reply to Erik) in Stackoverflow, describing why
>>> it will be good for OpenEHR if AOM2.0 will become an ISO-standard in the
>>> context of ISO13606 renewal.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32010122/are-the-hl7-fhir-hl7-cda-cimi-openehr-and-iso13606-approaches-aiming-to-solve/
>>>
>>
>> I must add, it is not that I suspect anyone of having secret IP on
>> OpenEHR.
>> I have no reason to suspect this.
>>
>> But I know people who have such suspicions, and having the AOM-part as an
>> ISO standard, surely will fight these rumors.
>>
>> I think it will help OpenEHR-implementations to have more customers.
>>
>> Bert
>>
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