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On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Ian McNicoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Gerard,
>
> That is very positive and helpful.  Would you consider adjusting to ‘
> openEHR is a not-for-profit company established by UCL’ which I hope
> captures your reservations about single ownership without giving the
> impression that this is a 'for-profit 'company?
>
> Ian
>
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> On 7 September 2015 at 14:38, "Gerard Freriks (privé)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ian,
>>
>> As I wrote you privately I promised to think over my use of words.
>>
>> Referring to my e-mail with the definition, as I used it, plus the quote
>> from the openEHR website,
>> it must have been clear that I was pointing at ownership of the openEHR
>> organisation.
>>
>> I’m aware now, that ‘proprietary’ has an other, different, meaning, when
>> applied to software or specifications.
>> My original e-mail conveyed an unintended meaning, is my conclusion.
>>  Therefore I will no longer use the word ‘proprietary’ but the phrase ‘
>> openEHR as a company owned by UCL’.
>>
>> With regards,
>>
>>  Gerard
>>
>> Gerard Freriks
>> +31 620347088
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>>
>> On 3 sep. 2015, at 02:07, Ian McNicoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bert,
>>
>> I am certainly conscious of rumours. Some of these are due to general
>> suspicion of open source licensing (and we can, I think, do more to
>> alleviate this)  but I am afraid some of anxiety is also caused by
>> inaccurate and misleading information "openEHR is proprietary",  regularly
>> stated by a small number of individuals. I have had to ask for these to be
>> corrected in a number of documents e.g. The SemanticHealthNet report where
>> it was agreed by the principal authors, including Dipak, to be incorrect.
>>
>> Since a significant number of companies and national organisations now
>> make use of openEHR specifications or artefacts, these statements are being
>> regarded as commercially hostile and the Foundation Boards both agree that
>> legal action should now be taken where the authors are not prepared to
>> promptly correct this inaccuracy.
>>
>> Leaving that aside. I am not convinced that ISO is a good home for
>> openEHR. The specifications, development and revision process in ISO remain
>> completely closed and quite at odds withopenEHR principles but I would be
>> interested in other's views.
>>
>> I do think that some sort of association with a formal standards body
>> would help alleviate some of the anxieties you mention (though these are
>> imaginary) but I am not sure that ISO would be my first choice as it is
>> currently constructed. I will raise the issue of whether to submit AOM2
>> with the Management Board.
>>
>> I am interested in other people's opinions.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> Dr Ian McNicoll
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>> Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation [email protected]
>> Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd.
>> Director, HANDIHealth CIC
>> Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
>>
>> On 1 September 2015 at 16:48, Bert Verhees <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01-09-15 17:16, Bert Verhees wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have written a text (reply to Erik) in Stackoverflow, describing why
>>>> it will be good for OpenEHR if AOM2.0 will become an ISO-standard in the
>>>> context of ISO13606 renewal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32010122/are-the-hl7-fhir-hl7-cda-cimi-openehr-and-iso13606-approaches-aiming-to-solve/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I must add, it is not that I suspect anyone of having secret IP on
>>> OpenEHR.
>>> I have no reason to suspect this.
>>>
>>> But I know people who have such suspicions, and having the AOM-part as
>>> an ISO standard, surely will fight these rumors.
>>>
>>> I think it will help OpenEHR-implementations to have more customers.
>>>
>>> Bert
>>>
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