Thanks Ian, I know this was modeled. Just wanted to understand the rationale behind choosing an ACTION vs an ADMIN_ENTRY, this is to help me create an exercise for my students. And for ACTION, if the dispense should be an active of final state, and from your message it seems I was on the right path, not thinking this as a final state since more actions can happen after the dispense, like the one I mentioned of the patient recording intake.
:) On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Ian McNicoll <i...@freshehr.com> wrote: > Hi Pablo, > > We have definitely modelled this into the ACTION.medication.v1 (Medication > management) archetype > > https://openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.123 > > Prescription dispensed > Careflow step > > The ordered medication has been dispensed, for example from a pharmacy to > the patient. > > It has an active state. > > Just note that this is not intended to support the internal pharmacy > dispensing process, just a note that the pharmacy has dispensed the product. > > Ian > > > > Dr Ian McNicoll > mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 > office +44 (0)1536 414994 > skype: ianmcnicoll > email: i...@freshehr.com > twitter: @ianmcnicoll > > > Co-Chair, openEHR Foundation ian.mcnic...@openehr.org > Director, freshEHR Clinical Informatics Ltd. > Director, HANDIHealth CIC > Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 at 20:24, Pablo Pazos <pablo.pa...@cabolabs.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Karsten, >> >> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Karsten Hilbert <karsten.hilb...@gmx.net >> > wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:03:28PM -0300, Pablo Pazos wrote: >>> >>> > How would you map a "pharmacy drug dispense" task, where the patient >>> comes >>> > with a prescription and a clerk delivers the medication packages? >>> > >>> > I was thinking this is clearly and ACTION, but also seems to be an >>> > ADMIN_ENTRY, since it is just a delivery of some product. >>> > >>> > I'm inclined to think it as an ACTION if this task alters the state of >>> the >>> > prescription INSTRUCTION ISM. On this case, as a parallel question, >>> I'm not >>> > sure if the dispense ACTION should be a final "COMPLETED" state, what >>> > happens if we want to record the patient's intake of the drug? Where >>> the >>> > real "COMPLETED" is when the treatment is finished. >>> >>> That might mean that some INSTRUCTIONs never get COMPLETED >>> until the patient dies. >>> >>> >> There is a state "EXPIRED", so that is covered IMO if an expiration date >> is recorded, or even if the whole system has preconfigured expiration dates >> for drug treatments. This is very common, at least in the systems that I >> know. >> >> >>> It might help to think of shifts in responsibility: who is >>> primarily responsible for completion of a given action ? >>> >>> - write prescription -> doctor >>> - hand out drug based on prescription -> pharmacist >>> - take drug as instructed -> patient >>> >>> Each change of responsibility: doctor -> pharmacist -> >>> patient might warrant a COMPLETED state. >>> >>> Karsten >>> -- >>> GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openEHR-technical mailing list >>> openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org >>> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr- >>> technical_lists.openehr.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Ing. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez* >> pablo.pa...@cabolabs.com >> +598 99 043 145 >> skype: cabolabs >> Subscribe to our newsletter <http://eepurl.com/b_w_tj> >> <https://cabolabs.com/> >> http://www.cabolabs.com >> https://cloudehrserver.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openEHR-technical mailing list >> openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org >> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr- >> technical_lists.openehr.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > openEHR-technical mailing list > openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr- > technical_lists.openehr.org > > -- *Ing. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez* pablo.pa...@cabolabs.com +598 99 043 145 skype: cabolabs Subscribe to our newsletter <http://eepurl.com/b_w_tj> <https://cabolabs.com/> http://www.cabolabs.com https://cloudehrserver.com
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