On 05-09-18 11:15, GF wrote:
Thomas,

The record can stay where it was.
Only the connection of identifying patient data and the Record-ID needs to be encrypted. De-encryption can take place using a key owned and provided by a notary public.

I don't think that is enough, Gerard, if the record contains DNA material, or other identifying material.

A 1997 study showed that up to 87% of the U.S. population could be identify with just zip code, birthdate and gender. A researcher was able to identify William Weld (Massachusetts Gov.) from anonymous hospital discharge records.

Today this numbers will be much higher because clinical actions will be on cell-phones and internet-browsers, and there is much more linked-information about individuals.

Read this, very interesting:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/04/25/harvard-professor-re-identifies-anonymous-volunteers-in-dna-study/#41635a6892c9

An organization which has no business with your medical data should not have access to them, not even historical clinical data. GDPR, were we all talk about, which is the thread of this message, is mainly build around consent, but what is consent?

There should be more discussion about to get the understanding landing at normal people:
Click on the image, I found yesterday, to see more images:
https://twitter.com/ianmthompson/status/1037276071002038272

Bert


All must be handled by the Patient-ID server and an official functionary that is equipped to manage keys in a trusted way.

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On 1 Sep 2018, at 20:28, Thomas Beale <thomas.be...@openehr.org <mailto:thomas.be...@openehr.org>> wrote:

I continue to wonder what will happen when a cancer patient (perhaps in a moment of depression or disaffection with care) asks for the hard delete, gets better, then has a recurrence a few years later. What does the health system do when/all the notes are really gone/?

I think a better solution is to create a digital locked room when such EHRs are put, one-way encrypted with a giant key provided by the patient. Then when they have regrets, they can ask - nicely - for their record to come out of cold storage.

Another argument against total deletion is that a) the state has invested in helping sick patients and b) other citizens have a potential interest in health records belonging to those in the same major disease cohort, i.e. diabetes, cystic fibrosis, BRCA1 cancer etc. Numerous deletions are certainly going to compromise research that looks at longitudinal Dx v treatments v outcomes. Perhaps perhaps permanent anonymisation is a better solution in this case, with the original patient being given the new EHR id.

I think GDPR has some way to go yet in healthcare...

- thomas




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