David Forslund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> And graphs are far from everything, but are nice to have for 
> certain applications.

For anything to do with population health, they are essential. And
Dynamic, clickable graphs as Andrew has done are even better (the
only reservation being that few people use the latest versions of
Mozilla, but that is only a reservation, not a fatal flaw).

> I do believe that we shouldn't have physicians 
> building web pages.

Huh? Surely the aim is to have all clinicians building the 
information displays, representations and data capture systems 
they require, using sophisticated tools which help them properly
structure that information (eg openEHR) and tools which eliminate
the need for arcane knowledge of programming languages. The new
batch of clinicians are beginning to embrace their role as knowledge
workers and informaticians. Not as programmers, sure, but the need
for programming is a transitional annoyance...

The most important things when building a graph are a) understanding
of the underlying domain concepts; b) understanding of the use of
aggregate data c) understanding of quantitative graph design principles.

Physicians vs programmers: Physicians win a) and increasingly b) (with
the
rise of evidence-based medicine and training in epidemiology and 
biostatistics). Both hopeless at c)- but nearly everyone is (my own
group
included as we have found out when we actually tested comprehension 
of some of our graphs with the intended audience - ouch!).

Physicians vs computer scientists: Physicians win a), CS probably win b)
And maybe c) - depends on their background.

But computer scientists engaged in day-to-day information work as
opposed
to academic research are thin on the ground.

And all generalities are by definition wrong for many instances.

Tim C


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