Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Will,
Please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing ;-)
They have not done this before!
Perfection is worth striving for, but it is almost never reachable, Therefore it was agreed by most of us that it was OK to get it going and then change it. If this democratic process is not there, and your suggestions for change are not accepted by the others in the future, let us both resign and join another group.
The way of holding the meeting looks wiered for most of us, but it is a method that is accesible for all, does not limit us to a time ( I was in the operating theatre for 11 hours today and one surgery was 6 hours. meaning if Molly fixed a video conference at this time, i would not had the opportunity to take part), and gave us a whole new experience :-)
I was asked by Molly if i wanted to be in the Protem committee, I agreed. I was made Asst. Secretary at first, then made into representative for Asia and Juliana, her daughter, became the asst. secretary, all without a word to me!
But I think that was probably a good thing, both for the committee and me ;-)
We would really like to have you with us and therfore, forgive but do not forget! Come back with your proposals and I am sure they would be welcome.
Nandalal
Will,
I agree that the process we are following is a clunky. My suggestion is
let's do what democratic countries do with imperfect constitutions and
amend it after we have bootstrapped OSHCA into existence....the US did
it so can OHSCA :-). Would you be comfortable boostrapping OSHCA for now
and then working to amend the constitution? Given that OSHCA is a
democracy we can deal with flaws and omissions more effectively with
real voting membership in place.
Joseph
Will Ross wrote:
> molly,
>
> with all due respect, what is the point of offering opportunities to
> vote for or against a position if a nay vote is disallowed or
> prevents the possibility of membership? please explain to me how
> the loyal opposition can voice their opinion without harassment,
> retribution, exclusion and expulsion.
>
> please review the motions. i approved the creation of the entity,
> the naming of the entity, and the members of the protem committee,
> but i opposed submission of the proposed constitution because i
> consider it to be unnecessarily flawed, and the process to be
> unnecessarily rushed. i fail to see to see the connection between
> my nay vote on the constitution and your assertion that i am
> disallowed to be a founding member. if anything, it is flawed
> instructions for a meeting process that is interfering with my good
> faith attempt to openly join oshca.
>
> with best regards,
>
> [wr]
>
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> On Apr 24, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Molly Cheah wrote:
>
> > Hi Will,
> > What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the
> > constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the list
> > of founding members to the ROS simply because the ROS will not
> > register OSHCA. Therefore there will be no OSHCA for you to be a
> > member of.
> >
> > I am posting this to the openhealth list for the information of
> > others.
> >
> > Molly
> > Will Ross wrote:
> >
> >> joseph,
> >>
> >> not sure if this is correct.
> >>
> >> [wr]
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> >> will ross
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> will ross
> project manager
> mendocino informatics
> 216 west perkins street, suite 206
> ukiah, california 95482 usa
> 707.462.6369 [office]
> 707.462.5015 [fax]
> www.minformatics.com
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