i'm concerned this message and the assumptions beneath it.
i am attempting to join a process that needs to be loosely coupled
enough to allow serial participation.
stop trying to kick me out of oshca.
with best regards,
[wr]
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On Apr 25, 2006, at 12:01 PM, John wrote:
> Dear Will,
>
> I understand your concerns. On the other hand, "Perfection is the
> enemy of
> the good" and I believe we should not risk having OSHCA
> constitution delayed
> for another couple years...
> If you choose not to come aboard for now, please send me your
> suggestions as
> I will gladly forward them inside OSHCA. But I would rather have
> you doing
> that as an OSHCA member.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
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> De: openhealth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Em nome
> de Nandalal Gunaratne
> Enviada em: terça-feira, 25 de abril de 2006 13:30
> Para: openhealth@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: Re: [openhealth] Re: oshca inaugural meeting - constitution
>
>
>
>
> Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Will,
>
> Please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing ;-)
> They have not done this before!
>
> Perfection is worth striving for, but it is almost never reachable,
> Therefore it was agreed by most of us that it was OK to get it
> going and
> then change it. If this democratic process is not there, and your
> suggestions for change are not accepted by the others in the
> future, let us
> both resign and join another group.
>
> The way of holding the meeting looks wiered for most of us, but it
> is a
> method that is accesible for all, does not limit us to a time ( I
> was in the
> operating theatre for 11 hours today and one surgery was 6 hours.
> meaning if
> Molly fixed a video conference at this time, i would not had the
> opportunity
> to take part), and gave us a whole new experience :-)
>
> I was asked by Molly if i wanted to be in the Protem committee, I
> agreed. I
> was made Asst. Secretary at first, then made into representative
> for Asia
> and Juliana, her daughter, became the asst. secretary, all without
> a word to
> me!
>
> But I think that was probably a good thing, both for the committee
> and me
> ;-)
>
> We would really like to have you with us and therfore, forgive but
> do not
> forget! Come back with your proposals and I am sure they would be
> welcome.
>
> Nandalal
>
> Will,
>
>
> I agree that the process we are following is a clunky. My
> suggestion is
> let's do what democratic countries do with imperfect constitutions and
> amend it after we have bootstrapped OSHCA into existence....the US did
> it so can OHSCA :-). Would you be comfortable boostrapping OSHCA
> for now
> and then working to amend the constitution? Given that OSHCA is a
> democracy we can deal with flaws and omissions more effectively with
> real voting membership in place.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> Will Ross wrote:
>> molly,
>>
>> with all due respect, what is the point of offering opportunities to
>> vote for or against a position if a nay vote is disallowed or
>> prevents the possibility of membership? please explain to me how
>> the loyal opposition can voice their opinion without harassment,
>> retribution, exclusion and expulsion.
>>
>> please review the motions. i approved the creation of the entity,
>> the naming of the entity, and the members of the protem committee,
>> but i opposed submission of the proposed constitution because i
>> consider it to be unnecessarily flawed, and the process to be
>> unnecessarily rushed. i fail to see to see the connection between
>> my nay vote on the constitution and your assertion that i am
>> disallowed to be a founding member. if anything, it is flawed
>> instructions for a meeting process that is interfering with my good
>> faith attempt to openly join oshca.
>>
>> with best regards,
>>
>> [wr]
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>> On Apr 24, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Molly Cheah wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Will,
>>> What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the
>>> constitution, we will not be able to include your name in the list
>>> of founding members to the ROS simply because the ROS will not
>>> register OSHCA. Therefore there will be no OSHCA for you to be a
>>> member of.
>>>
>>> I am posting this to the openhealth list for the information of
>>> others.
>>>
>>> Molly
>>> Will Ross wrote:
>>>
>>>> joseph,
>>>>
>>>> not sure if this is correct.
>>>>
>>>> [wr]
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