There are no reasons that JavaFX could not work well on mobile platforms, providing there is a JVM. I was convinced that mobile UI toolkits were very specific, but it's really not the case. Android UI Toolkit has really very few mobile specificities for example.
2014-06-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Pedro Duque Vieira <pedro.duquevie...@gmail.com>: > > > > People have tried HTML5 as a way to create apps for mobile platforms. > Most > > of the big names who tried this e.g. Facebook have abandoned it. > > They've abandoned it but not because of the reasons you imply but rather > due to HTML5 limitations of providing a good native experience in regards > to performance, fluid animations, etc. > And also there's a reason why all of them started using HTML5 in the first > place: faster delivery time. You only need a code base and with few small > adjustments can deliver an app for all mobile platforms. Later you can > start concentrating on delivering the best experience on each platform. > > BTW I don't think JavaFX can "fade away" given that it's starting from > > obscurity already ;) Truth is the world lacks a convincing cross platform > > UI toolkit at the moment: there's Qt, which is fine for C++ but is not > so > > pleasant from other languages, there's Swing, there's HTML5. > > JavaFX is already undoubtedly one of the best cross platform (desktop cross > platform) UI toolkits out there. > But that isn't enough as desktop is becoming less and less important. > > Thanks, > > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mike Hearn <m...@plan99.net> wrote: > > > If it is correct that JavaFX won't be supporting iOS or Android > >> (officially), IMO JavaFX will start fading away as soon as there is a > >> reliable technology that can create apps for all platforms. > > > > > > People have tried HTML5 as a way to create apps for mobile platforms. > Most > > of the big names who tried this e.g. Facebook have abandoned it. > > > > Personally, I don't care much about JavaFX on Android or iOS because > > mobile has such different UI requirements and conventions to desktop > > platforms. I can write a JFX GUI that looks and feels good across > > Mac/Win/Linux with very little platform specific code because those > > platforms are all quite similar and anyway, the respective developers of > > those platforms trained users to expect apps to not fit in perfectly. > > > > On mobile, things are different: you can't just use a desktop UI, you > need > > a totally new UI and maybe even feature set built from scratch. On > Android > > the UI toolkit is closely linked with the lifecycle rules. And UI's tend > to > > be a lot more consistent, with the worst offenders being apps that > weren't > > updated to the latest UI conventions yet rather than apps which simply > > reinvent the look and feel from scratch. > > > > I'd actually prefer that Oracle focuses on making a great desktop > > solution. Hype aside there are still many apps not appropriate for > mobiles > > or tablets. Then with a Java or JVM-language backend I can have just two > UI > > codebases, one for desktop, one for Android and that gets most mobiles. > > Then RoboVM's Cocoa bindings can be used if need be for iOS. > > > > BTW I don't think JavaFX can "fade away" given that it's starting from > > obscurity already ;) Truth is the world lacks a convincing cross platform > > UI toolkit at the moment: there's Qt, which is fine for C++ but is not > so > > pleasant from other languages, there's Swing, there's HTML5. Both Swing > and > > Qt have a reputation for making ugly GUI's. That may or may not be > deserved > > these days, but people remember the history. Plus deployment is horrible. > > That leaves HTML5, which despite its manifest limitations at least can be > > made to easily look good via CSS, follow modern fashions, work on > > everyone's computers and people don't have to download an extra app > > runtime. So for many apps it's appropriate especially when the bulk of > the > > app logic runs on a server. > > > > JavaFX 8, at least based on my experience so far, can be used to make > > attractive and web-style UIs, thus matching the first of HTML5's > > capabilities, plus it has the benefit of actually being designed, unlike > > HTML which just evolved. This leaves deployment as the primary problem. > For > > this reason Danno is my current fav member of the JavaFX team :) Nothing > > personal guys, I just see cross-platform deployment of *reasonable > sized* apps > > to be the biggest competitive weakness right now. > > > > > > -- > Pedro Duque Vieira >
