The important is that they sell the software with the code, not only compile
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney

If you buy a software and in that software there is GPL code, you could ask
the code of all the software.



2009/1/8 Sebastian Wagner <[email protected]>

> *However, putting the program on a server machine for the public to talk to
> is hardly "private" use, so it would be legitimate to require release of the
> source code in that special case*
> => this is definitely not just a showcase of an application.
>
> however, this does not really met the situation.
> persony not only *publish* something on their website. They basically sell
> their product for resellers. So they really sell the hole server not only
> the *service* on their demo server. You can download and install on your own
> or for example or join their Partner program ...
> http://www.persony.com/partners_program.php *Reseller Partners*
>
> so this is not about a *Conferencing Webside* where they run a single /
> multiple instances of the application they basically sell the hole software.
>
> sebastian
>
>
>
> 2009/1/8 Roberto Torresani <[email protected]>
>
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#UnreleasedMods
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/8 Sebastian Wagner <[email protected]>
>>
>>> yes I am quite sure about that part of the LPGL.
>>> As soon as you modify the Sources of OpenMeetings you have to publish and
>>> license the modifications either under LGPL or GPL.
>>>
>>> But if you use OpenMeetings by using for example the Web-Service Gateway
>>> => so you do not modify OpenMeetings => you can redistribute it as part of
>>> your application without changing your License (so you can also
>>> re-distribute it under a propriatry license ... but only if you use it *as a
>>> library*.
>>>
>>> Modifing the sources and re-publish it under non (L)GPL terms is not
>>> LGPL-conform.
>>>
>>> In case of GPL you are right => GPL code can only by re-distributed as
>>> GPL
>>> In case of LGPL => you can choose if you would like to re-distribute as
>>> LPGL or GPL.
>>>
>>> 2009/1/8 Roberto Torresani <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Hi Sebastian!
>>>> Are you sure about this?
>>>>
>>>> I know that if you use a code with GPL license (or LGPL) you could do
>>>> all you want, but you can't give to third part for example compile code: 
>>>> you
>>>> must give them the source. You are not obligate to public to the world the
>>>> modify you do.
>>>>
>>>> Make the source code public available: you can not distribute compile
>>>> code
>>>> Redistribute the source only licensed as GPL or LPGL: if in a my project
>>>> I use code GPL I must distribute all the project only with GPL license  
>>>> (but
>>>> I must not distribute it)
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>> Roberto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/1/8 Sebastian Wagner <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> and the more I read about it... actually persony.com is already
>>>>> violating the LPGL.
>>>>> The do not only use OpenMeetings as Library, they modified it. In order
>>>>> to the terms of the LPGL they have to:
>>>>> - make the source code public available
>>>>> - redistribute the source code only licensed as GPL or LPGL.
>>>>>
>>>>> so in fact this IS already violation of LGPL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sebastian
>>>>>
>>>>>  2009/1/8 Sebastian Wagner <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> there is no real reason for v2 or v3. I read some articles about v3
>>>>>> but I am not sure about the real changes from v2 to v3. A BSD styled 
>>>>>> license
>>>>>> would be also an option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/1/8 Alan Bell <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why not GPL3?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just curious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>> > hi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I am thinking of releasing the next package under GPLv2
>>>>>>> > GPLv2 forces anybody who re-uses the package to release all of its
>>>>>>> > content also under the GPL.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The reason is for that is I find commercial product like for
>>>>>>> example
>>>>>>> > persony.com <http://persony.com> are using parts of OpenMeetings
>>>>>>> > (screen-sharing client) but they never contributed anything back to
>>>>>>> > the plattform.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > sebastian
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>> > http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>>> > http://www.laszlo-forum.de
>>>>>>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>>> http://www.laszlo-forum.de
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>>>> http://www.laszlo-forum.de
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
>>> http://www.laszlo-forum.de
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com
> http://www.laszlo-forum.de
> [email protected]
>
> >
>

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