Thanks, that helps me a lot to see that it's possible, and to be able to point the ABC at it too. If we used part of the budget, as Maria suggested to me, to develop an open source web viewer for OpenSim, would that help you too? That would get around the ports issue, wouldn't it? Since this would all be run via the ABC's online education portal, you would think they would be able to arrange things with schools to get around the firewall of doom. That must be part of their plan already, otherwise they won't get very far!

Cheers,

Lisa

On 08/20/2012 01:29 PM, jokay Wollongong wrote:
HI Lisa and all,

Just sharing, as I thought it might be of interest... we (at jokaydiaGRID) actually developed a historical build with the History Teachers Association of Victoria last year! You can find out more about it here - http://virtualhistorycentre.com/ . Essentially the project focussed on making a virtual replica of the Point Nepean Quarantine Station in Victoria and additionally a museum which provides virtual worlds access to a range of research materials and resources for students to explore. There are also a number of quests built into the environment to encourage students to explore, reflect and recreate content to add to the build. You can view additional pictures of the here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokay/sets/72157631154100902/

Unfortunatey its had limited use so far because of the ongoing challenges of opening ports in educational environments in Australia (shake fist at firewall of doom), but it has had some limited use by students in Victoria and we're currently working on various Sim on a stick options et al. Additionally, we're hoping it will be open to the public via jokaydiaGRID very soon... will keep you posted! ;)

Kind regards,
jokay
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Lisa Evans <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for that! I'm pretty sure we already know each other, years
    ago at the FTI during the CADSAGAP course? Am I thinking of the
    right person? I was hoping I would run into some local people as I
    did my research on this! Yes, I definitely want to talk to people
    at UWA, I need some input from teachers and/or academics in this
    area. It helps that my father is both a science teacher and a
    computer programmer, so he's helping me out, but someone who has
    done more work on using virtual worlds in education would be very,
    very helpful for my application :)

    I'm definitely thinking of cross media, because I think focussing
    on 3D worldbuilding could become a bit of a distraction from
    actually learning, once you get past a certain point of
    complexity. I just want the virtual space to be a meeting place,
    and to help give context, kind of like a museum exhibition or a
    diorama representing a story from history. The rest of the story,
    and discussion about different historical sources, would be in
    more traditional text format, along with videos, photos, etc. I
    kind of imagine that each story within the virtual world would be
    accompanied by a discussion page the same way articles in
    Wikipedia are, where students can argue their case for why they
    believe the event happened in one particular way rather than
    another. There would of course be differences of opinion, maybe
    multiple accounts of the same event. But that's what history
    really is - the competition between different accounts and
    interpretations, not just a series of facts.

    So it sounds like Moodle would be a great addition to this
    project! Thanks for suggesting it. I'm looking out for people I
    can add to my team, at least for the purposes of the application
    (you have to list your team members and have a two page CV for
    each one), so if you're available for that it could be a great
    help. If we then get funding you can see how much time you could
    put into consulting work for us.

    Cheers,

    Lisa


    On 08/20/2012 12:47 PM, chris wrote:
    Hi Lisa,

    nice idea. There was a similar UWA educational research proposal
    for teaching ancient greek using opensim/SL. The idea was to
    immerse students in the culture of the time as well as
    communicate/learn in ancient greek. That one did not get funded
    but it may be a good idea to join forces with such educators and
    not only go for the ABC grant but also an ARC - industry linkage
    grant.  I can put you in contact with those ppl if interested.

    Another link suggestion if you wish to meet educators is on the
    jokaydiagrid - a relatively inexpensive grid if you want to meet
    educators and learn at the same time- see:
    http://jokaydia.wikispaces.com/Edusquarelandmarks

    Another thing to consider is sloodle: an integration of the open
    source Moodle educational course tools with SL sims. It has its
    limitations but does provide a good way to develop Web based
    courses with a sim. I suggest cross media is the best way to go -
    not just relying on opensim but do Web/sim/film/machinima - which
    it seems you are already thinking - am I right?

    My main experience in this area is in SL and Moodle (both
    deparately and combined) but I am doing a little edu project in
    opensim too atm. Over the next year I plan to move stuff from SL
    to opensim so maybe I will meet you on a grid sometime :)

    cheers,

    chris

    On 20 August 2012 01:18, Lisa Evans <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        I'm very new to OpenSim and just signed up to this list to
        ask a few questions. Sorry if I come across as a bit of a
        newbie, although I've been studying OS for a few days and I
        have my own standalone grid up and running at home.

        I'm putting together a proposal for this educational portal
        run by the ABC here in Australia:

        http://www.abc.net.au/learn/proposals.htm

        My project is all about teaching history, the idea being that
        students and history classes could put together simple sims
        telling stories about the history of their own local area,
        linking them up with videos, photos, essays, etc (which you
        could hopefully launch from within the sim). Their sims would
        all be linked up in a hypergrid, so students from all over
        Australia (later maybe the world) could get into a virtual
        time machine and visit different places at different times,
        to see what was happening. Students would be able to chat
        with each other and show each other around their creations.
        Hopefully the act of collaborative world building would
        engage them in learning about history, but I would want them
        focussed on just telling small stories, involving a small
        number of characters (which would be created as NPCs if
        that's possible, with simple, looping animations if not more
        complex behaviour) and buildings, objects, etc. (I have ideas
        about how to source lots of 3D content, which I need to
        explore more).

        I'm sure none of this is an original idea, but it seems like
        a good opportunity to put an idea like this forward. I just
        was wondering if anyone could tell me whether it would work
        in OpenSim or if there are some big barriers to creating
        something like this.

        My main issue right now is trying to work out how you create
        sims that represent not only a region in space but also a
        period in time. I've been thinking that I would have a grid
        that contains regions in which only stories from, say, 1950
        to 2000 were created. Then another grid would represent the
        same real world area, but contain stories from 1900-1950. The
        further you go back in time, the longer the time intervals
        would get, along an approximately logarithmic scale, so if
        you were telling stories about the dinosaurs one grid would
        represent the entire Jurassic era, for example.

        Would this be the right way to go? I've been reading about
        regions and grids and hypergrids but I'm pretty sure there's
        a lot I don't understand.

        My own background is that I've been working in 3D animation
        for film, TV and games for the past decade, as a 3D all
        rounder and a technical artist. I've worked on one big MMO
        for three years that was never released. So I know about 3D
        modeling, animation, worldbuilding, etc. but I've never spent
        much time around Second Life or OpenSim, so a lot of this is
        new to me.

        Thanks for any help!

        Cheers,

        Lisa Evans

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