And thanks so much for the recommend! ;)
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM, jokay Wollongong <[email protected]>wrote: > Lolz Chris..... i was busy rezzing something! ;) > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Chris Thorne <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hey jokay, >> >> - just recommended your grid to Lisa >> I guess u are too slow :p >> >> Chris >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 20/08/2012, at 1:29 PM, jokay Wollongong <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> HI Lisa and all, >> >> Just sharing, as I thought it might be of interest... we (at >> jokaydiaGRID) actually developed a historical build with the History >> Teachers Association of Victoria last year! You can find out more about it >> here - http://virtualhistorycentre.com/ . Essentially the project >> focussed on making a virtual replica of the Point Nepean Quarantine Station >> in Victoria and additionally a museum which provides virtual worlds access >> to a range of research materials and resources for students to explore. >> There are also a number of quests built into the environment to encourage >> students to explore, reflect and recreate content to add to the build. You >> can view additional pictures of the here - >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokay/sets/72157631154100902/ >> >> Unfortunatey its had limited use so far because of the ongoing challenges >> of opening ports in educational environments in Australia (shake fist at >> firewall of doom), but it has had some limited use by students in Victoria >> and we're currently working on various Sim on a stick options et al. >> Additionally, we're hoping it will be open to the public via jokaydiaGRID >> very soon... will keep you posted! ;) >> >> Kind regards, >> jokay >> Director, jokadiaGRID / Co-Founder Massively Minecraft >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Lisa Evans <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> Thanks for that! I'm pretty sure we already know each other, years ago >>> at the FTI during the CADSAGAP course? Am I thinking of the right person? I >>> was hoping I would run into some local people as I did my research on this! >>> Yes, I definitely want to talk to people at UWA, I need some input from >>> teachers and/or academics in this area. It helps that my father is both a >>> science teacher and a computer programmer, so he's helping me out, but >>> someone who has done more work on using virtual worlds in education would >>> be very, very helpful for my application :) >>> >>> I'm definitely thinking of cross media, because I think focussing on 3D >>> worldbuilding could become a bit of a distraction from actually learning, >>> once you get past a certain point of complexity. I just want the virtual >>> space to be a meeting place, and to help give context, kind of like a >>> museum exhibition or a diorama representing a story from history. The rest >>> of the story, and discussion about different historical sources, would be >>> in more traditional text format, along with videos, photos, etc. I kind of >>> imagine that each story within the virtual world would be accompanied by a >>> discussion page the same way articles in Wikipedia are, where students can >>> argue their case for why they believe the event happened in one particular >>> way rather than another. There would of course be differences of opinion, >>> maybe multiple accounts of the same event. But that's what history really >>> is - the competition between different accounts and interpretations, not >>> just a series of facts. >>> >>> So it sounds like Moodle would be a great addition to this project! >>> Thanks for suggesting it. I'm looking out for people I can add to my team, >>> at least for the purposes of the application (you have to list your team >>> members and have a two page CV for each one), so if you're available for >>> that it could be a great help. If we then get funding you can see how much >>> time you could put into consulting work for us. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Lisa >>> >>> >>> On 08/20/2012 12:47 PM, chris wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lisa, >>> >>> nice idea. There was a similar UWA educational research proposal for >>> teaching ancient greek using opensim/SL. The idea was to immerse students >>> in the culture of the time as well as communicate/learn in ancient greek. >>> That one did not get funded but it may be a good idea to join forces with >>> such educators and not only go for the ABC grant but also an ARC - industry >>> linkage grant. I can put you in contact with those ppl if interested. >>> >>> Another link suggestion if you wish to meet educators is on the >>> jokaydiagrid - a relatively inexpensive grid if you want to meet educators >>> and learn at the same time- see: >>> http://jokaydia.wikispaces.com/Edusquarelandmarks >>> >>> Another thing to consider is sloodle: an integration of the open >>> source Moodle educational course tools with SL sims. It has its limitations >>> but does provide a good way to develop Web based courses with a sim. I >>> suggest cross media is the best way to go - not just relying on opensim but >>> do Web/sim/film/machinima - which it seems you are already thinking - am I >>> right? >>> >>> My main experience in this area is in SL and Moodle (both deparately >>> and combined) but I am doing a little edu project in opensim too atm. Over >>> the next year I plan to move stuff from SL to opensim so maybe I will meet >>> you on a grid sometime :) >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> chris >>> >>> On 20 August 2012 01:18, Lisa Evans <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm very new to OpenSim and just signed up to this list to ask a few >>>> questions. Sorry if I come across as a bit of a newbie, although I've been >>>> studying OS for a few days and I have my own standalone grid up and running >>>> at home. >>>> >>>> I'm putting together a proposal for this educational portal run by the >>>> ABC here in Australia: >>>> >>>> http://www.abc.net.au/learn/proposals.htm >>>> >>>> My project is all about teaching history, the idea being that students >>>> and history classes could put together simple sims telling stories about >>>> the history of their own local area, linking them up with videos, photos, >>>> essays, etc (which you could hopefully launch from within the sim). Their >>>> sims would all be linked up in a hypergrid, so students from all over >>>> Australia (later maybe the world) could get into a virtual time machine and >>>> visit different places at different times, to see what was happening. >>>> Students would be able to chat with each other and show each other around >>>> their creations. Hopefully the act of collaborative world building would >>>> engage them in learning about history, but I would want them focussed on >>>> just telling small stories, involving a small number of characters (which >>>> would be created as NPCs if that's possible, with simple, looping >>>> animations if not more complex behaviour) and buildings, objects, etc. (I >>>> have ideas about how to source lots of 3D content, which I need to explore >>>> more). >>>> >>>> I'm sure none of this is an original idea, but it seems like a good >>>> opportunity to put an idea like this forward. I just was wondering if >>>> anyone could tell me whether it would work in OpenSim or if there are some >>>> big barriers to creating something like this. >>>> >>>> My main issue right now is trying to work out how you create sims that >>>> represent not only a region in space but also a period in time. I've been >>>> thinking that I would have a grid that contains regions in which only >>>> stories from, say, 1950 to 2000 were created. Then another grid would >>>> represent the same real world area, but contain stories from 1900-1950. The >>>> further you go back in time, the longer the time intervals would get, along >>>> an approximately logarithmic scale, so if you were telling stories about >>>> the dinosaurs one grid would represent the entire Jurassic era, for >>>> example. >>>> >>>> Would this be the right way to go? I've been reading about regions and >>>> grids and hypergrids but I'm pretty sure there's a lot I don't understand. >>>> >>>> My own background is that I've been working in 3D animation for film, >>>> TV and games for the past decade, as a 3D all rounder and a technical >>>> artist. I've worked on one big MMO for three years that was never released. >>>> So I know about 3D modeling, animation, worldbuilding, etc. but I've never >>>> spent much time around Second Life or OpenSim, so a lot of this is new to >>>> me. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any help! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Lisa Evans >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dr Chris Thorne >>> >>> >>> http://www.vrshed.com >>> http://www.floatingorigin.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing >>> [email protected]https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Jo Kay >> ________________________________ >> Freelance Design, Virtual Worlds and Facilitation >> jokaydiaGRID: http://jokaydiagrid.com >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/jokay >> Email: [email protected] / [email protected] >> Tel: 0405179622 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >> > > > > -- > -- > Jo Kay > ________________________________ > Freelance Design, Virtual Worlds and Facilitation > jokaydiaGRID: http://jokaydiagrid.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jokay > Email: [email protected] / [email protected] > Tel: 0405179622 > > -- -- Jo Kay ________________________________ Freelance Design, Virtual Worlds and Facilitation jokaydiaGRID: http://jokaydiagrid.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/jokay Email: [email protected] / [email protected] Tel: 0405179622
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