Hey jokay,

- just recommended your grid to Lisa
I guess u are too slow :p

Chris

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On 20/08/2012, at 1:29 PM, jokay Wollongong <[email protected]> wrote:

> HI Lisa and all,
> 
> Just sharing, as I thought it might be of interest...  we (at jokaydiaGRID)  
> actually developed a historical build with the History Teachers Association 
> of Victoria last year! You can find out more about it here -  
> http://virtualhistorycentre.com/ . Essentially the project focussed on making 
> a virtual replica of the Point Nepean Quarantine Station in Victoria and 
> additionally a museum which provides virtual worlds access to a range of 
> research materials and resources for students to explore. There are also a 
> number of quests built into the environment to encourage students to explore, 
> reflect and recreate content to add to the build. You can view additional 
> pictures of the here - 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokay/sets/72157631154100902/
> 
> Unfortunatey its had limited use so far because of the ongoing challenges of 
> opening ports in educational environments in Australia (shake fist at 
> firewall of doom), but it has had some limited use by students in Victoria 
> and we're currently working on various Sim on a stick options et al. 
> Additionally, we're hoping it will be open to the public via jokaydiaGRID 
> very soon... will keep you posted! ;) 
> 
> Kind regards,
> jokay
> Director, jokadiaGRID / Co-Founder Massively Minecraft
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Lisa Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Thanks for that! I'm pretty sure we already know each other, years ago at the 
> FTI during the CADSAGAP course? Am I thinking of the right person? I was 
> hoping I would run into some local people as I did my research on this! Yes, 
> I definitely want to talk to people at UWA, I need some input from teachers 
> and/or academics in this area. It helps that my father is both a science 
> teacher and a computer programmer, so he's helping me out, but someone who 
> has done more work on using virtual worlds in education would be very, very 
> helpful for my application :)
> 
> I'm definitely thinking of cross media, because I think focussing on 3D 
> worldbuilding could become a bit of a distraction from actually learning, 
> once you get past a certain point of complexity. I just want the virtual 
> space to be a meeting place, and to help give context, kind of like a museum 
> exhibition or a diorama representing a story from history. The rest of the 
> story, and discussion about different historical sources, would be in more 
> traditional text format, along with videos, photos, etc. I kind of imagine 
> that each story within the virtual world would be accompanied by a discussion 
> page the same way articles in Wikipedia are, where students can argue their 
> case for why they believe the event happened in one particular way rather 
> than another. There would of course be differences of opinion, maybe multiple 
> accounts of the same event. But that's what history really is - the 
> competition between different accounts and interpretations, not just a series 
> of facts. 
> 
> So it sounds like Moodle would be a great addition to this project! Thanks 
> for suggesting it. I'm looking out for people I can add to my team, at least 
> for the purposes of the application (you have to list your team members and 
> have a two page CV for each one), so if you're available for that it could be 
> a great help. If we then get funding you can see how much time you could put 
> into consulting work for us.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lisa
> 
> 
> On 08/20/2012 12:47 PM, chris wrote:
>> Hi Lisa,
>> 
>> nice idea. There was a similar UWA educational research proposal for 
>> teaching ancient greek using opensim/SL. The idea was to immerse students in 
>> the culture of the time as well as communicate/learn in ancient greek. That 
>> one did not get funded but it may be a good idea to join forces with such 
>> educators and not only go for the ABC grant but also an ARC - industry 
>> linkage grant.  I can put you in contact with those ppl if interested.
>> 
>> Another link suggestion if you wish to meet educators is on the jokaydiagrid 
>> - a relatively inexpensive grid if you want to meet educators and learn at 
>> the same time- see:
>> http://jokaydia.wikispaces.com/Edusquarelandmarks
>> 
>> Another thing to consider is sloodle: an integration of the open source 
>> Moodle educational course tools with SL sims. It has its limitations but 
>> does provide a good way to develop Web based courses with a sim. I suggest 
>> cross media is the best way to go - not just relying on opensim but do 
>> Web/sim/film/machinima - which it seems you are already thinking - am I 
>> right?
>> 
>> My main experience in this area is in SL and Moodle (both deparately and 
>> combined) but I am doing a little edu project in opensim too atm. Over the 
>> next year I plan to move stuff from SL to opensim so maybe I will meet you 
>> on a grid sometime :)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> chris
>> 
>> On 20 August 2012 01:18, Lisa Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm very new to OpenSim and just signed up to this list to ask a few 
>> questions. Sorry if I come across as a bit of a newbie, although I've been 
>> studying OS for a few days and I have my own standalone grid up and running 
>> at home.
>> 
>> I'm putting together a proposal for this educational portal run by the ABC 
>> here in Australia:
>> 
>> http://www.abc.net.au/learn/proposals.htm
>> 
>> My project is all about teaching history, the idea being that students and 
>> history classes could put together simple sims telling stories about the 
>> history of their own local area, linking them up with videos, photos, 
>> essays, etc (which you could hopefully launch from within the sim). Their 
>> sims would all be linked up in a hypergrid, so students from all over 
>> Australia (later maybe the world) could get into a virtual time machine and 
>> visit different places at different times, to see what was happening. 
>> Students would be able to chat with each other and show each other around 
>> their creations. Hopefully the act of collaborative world building would 
>> engage them in learning about history, but I would want them focussed on 
>> just telling small stories, involving a small number of characters (which 
>> would be created as NPCs if that's possible, with simple, looping animations 
>> if not more complex behaviour) and buildings, objects, etc. (I have ideas 
>> about how to source lots of 3D content, which I need to explore more). 
>> 
>> I'm sure none of this is an original idea, but it seems like a good 
>> opportunity to put an idea like this forward. I just was wondering if anyone 
>> could tell me whether it would work in OpenSim or if there are some big 
>> barriers to creating something like this.
>> 
>> My main issue right now is trying to work out how you create sims that 
>> represent not only a region in space but also a period in time. I've been 
>> thinking that I would have a grid that contains regions in which only 
>> stories from, say, 1950 to 2000 were created. Then another grid would 
>> represent the same real world area, but contain stories from 1900-1950. The 
>> further you go back in time, the longer the time intervals would get, along 
>> an approximately logarithmic scale, so if you were telling stories about the 
>> dinosaurs one grid would represent the entire Jurassic era, for example.
>> 
>> Would this be the right way to go? I've been reading about regions and grids 
>> and hypergrids but I'm pretty sure there's a lot I don't understand.
>> 
>> My own background is that I've been working in 3D animation for film, TV and 
>> games for the past decade, as a 3D all rounder and a technical artist. I've 
>> worked on one big MMO for three years that was never released. So I know 
>> about 3D modeling, animation, worldbuilding, etc. but I've never spent much 
>> time around Second Life or OpenSim, so a lot of this is new to me.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Lisa Evans
>> 
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