Dean Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
None of the arguments matter. On *Solaris* at least, motif is
effectively legacy, because *nobody* is maintaining it or writing new
applications on it.
Except that your claim above isn't true, unless you mean to limit it to
Sun or OpenSolaris. There are at least TWO commercial companies
providing support for Motif, and some more that provide binaries for
sale. That's more than there are for BIND.
Did you read the statement? I *said* *Solaris*. Doesn't that imply Sun
and OpenSolaris? Its certainly true *here*, in the OpenSolaris community.
BIND doesn't need companies to sell binaries separately. The source is
freely available and redistributable. And I know that more companies
than that provide binaries with the operating systems. (Pretty much all
UNIX vendors provide BIND binaries! Many, but not all of them, also
provide Motif binaries.) You're comparing apples and oranges.
Put another way, I can't think of any companies selling FreeBSD
binaries. But I think it would be a grave mistake to assert that this
says something about the vitality of the community behind it. And yet,
SCO (if they are even still around) was selling binaries (they might
even still be, if they can drum up any customers), yet their market
share was infinitesimal and their development community was practically
non-existent. So, I conclude that having binaries for sale is a useless
metric here.
Nobody should be writing new Solaris applications using Motif if they
can help it. I believe the same advice is applicable to people
writing applications on Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. (I don't
know about HP-UX and AIX -- they might still be stuck in the CDE
era...)
Well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to your opinion. But
perhaps its not too much to ask that people avoid the prejudicial
offensively-worded non-factual claims.
Fair enough. I think most of the claims have been factual. Certainly,
my original statement, that Motif is legacy code and new application
developers shouldn't be writing code for it is most definitely true, at
least in the context where it was worded, which is here in the
OpenSolaris community. Whether it is or is not true in other contexts
is not something I can accurately judge, although I know *I* wouldn't be
wasting my time on CDE or Motif development these days.
- Garrett
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