Well, if you were looking at Motif for CDE performance problem, that's
where you went wrong.  CDE is a desktop manager.  Motif is a GUI
toolkit.  Its rather like looking at libresolv to figure out why DNS
server response is slow.  You are confusing Motif with CDE.

I've also seen Motif on Gnome. The problem is that the Gnome window
manager doesn't do what a window manager is supposed to do. Its not
Motif's fault; that's Gnome's fault for being buggy and non-compliant
with window manager requirements. Its a toy.

BTW, I've also pestered The Open Group to opensource CDE. Some more
features would be good, but key is that CDE has the foundations of a
good standards compliant desktop manager.  Gnome gets confused by
AFS/NFS home dirs when the same user logs into multiple systems--Gnome
is a toy.

There really is a reason that people still run Solaris instead of Linux.  
I suggest you give some thought as to why that is.  Failure to figure
that out probably isn't a good thing, but fortunately the Solaris source
is now mostly all free and the non-free code seems to be getting
whittled down; So, if you fail, someone else can pick it up.

                --Dean

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Bart Smaalders wrote:

> Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Fair enough.  I think most of the claims have been factual.  Certainly, 
> > my original statement, that Motif is legacy code and new application 
> > developers shouldn't be writing code for it is most definitely true, at 
> > least in the context where it was worded, which is here in the 
> > OpenSolaris community.  Whether it is or is not true in other contexts 
> > is not something I can accurately judge, although I know *I* wouldn't be 
> > wasting my time on CDE or Motif development these days.
> > 
> 
> It's dead, Jim.
> 
> What desktop environments use Motif?  Yes, you can run a binary that 
> makes calls into Motif on either Gnome or KDE, but it looks fugly,
> doesn't inter-operate properly and shouts "obsolete" from the
> rooftops.
> 
> It's also a PITA to program; I know - I did a lot of performance
> work on CDE back in the early 90s.  There was a reason we referred
> to it as "Mogrief".
> 
> - Bart
> 
> 

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