Moinak Ghosh wrote:

> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>
>> Gueven Bay wrote:
>>
>>   [...]
>> NOTE: The patches are anonymously available to any nastiest persons in
>> the world, without any kind of authorization!
>> So where is the "legal difference" ??
>>   
>
>
>    From the little that I know of legal terms, the "Right To Use" and
>    "Right To Re-distribute" are distinct. "Right To Use" applies to the
>    current SUN Studio software while "Right To Re-distribute" is
>    restricted to a few binaries.
>
> Regards,
> Moinak. 



Yes, RTU versus "RTD".
However, quite a few external sites _are_ allowed to redistribute SUNW's
patches.

Even including the bins we are discussing about:
http://www.google.com/search?q=119964-07&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N
Completely external sites like
http://ftp.us.xemacs.org/ftp/tigerd1/patches/current_signed/
or even
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.sun.co.uk/patchroot/current_unsigned/119601-06.README
 
.
They all _do_ redistribute those patches (and therefore bins and libs).
Why are they allowed to? Do they have a special agreement? Or is it
something different legally to redistribute a "patch"?
Or may even be, all those sites are violating SUNW's legal terms? I just
wonder.

FURTHER: Why not just giving _us_ distributors a special agreement, i.e.
that allowed *us*, and only us, to redistribute those libs. Maybe we
could offer special limited 3rd-party-redistributable versions of our
distros (without those files, our current releases), as well as
un-redistributable flavours that have the files on DVD, but cannot
legally be redistributed by external 3rd parties.

I mean: Our own distributions (at least your Belenix - and mine) can
only be downloaded currently from a SUNW-funded site (if I understood
that correctly, genunix is a SUNW paid site, but not sure) . That means,
they actually are not even offered externally:

http://www.genunix.org/distributions/belenix_site/belenix_home.html
http://www.genunix.org/distributions//martux/marTux_0.2/
(http://www.martux.org only contains the links, not the content)

Where is the problem?

I do not understand these lawyers .
Okay, everyone in the free world is required to do what they say (which
is good to a certain extent).
But not necessarily the full 100% of their decisions are always 100.00%
correct?

I don't know.

Anyways:
SUNW is finally working on it,
and our download-workaround works better-than-nothing.

I will stop making noise now.
And wait y.another month.


Thanks to everyone from SUNW and elsewhere, who has offered to help    :-)


Regards,
Martin
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