Joerg Schilling wrote:

>Moinak Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>   No, I did not mean that. The question was "How could communtiy 
>>OpenSolaris distros
>>   function without needed system libraries being present ?". So I 
>>pointed out that libCrun
>>   is not a system library, but a compiler specific runtime which is not 
>>necessary for the base
>>   OS to function.
>>    
>>
>
>If I did understand things correctly, then Sun likes that java is 
>redistributed 
>by OpenSolaris distributions. If I remember correctly, java needs libC.
>
>Isn't the conclusion from this that java cannot be distributed in a way that
>makes it usable?
>
> Joerg
>


The conclusion is much worse:

It's not only a question of a "can" versus "cannot" (in the sense of
"doesn't work").
It is even AGAINST THE LAW, to ship an incompatible version.


http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ.html

"8. What are my OBLIGATIONS under this license?"

----->>
"Ship only a compatible JDK on your OS. If notified of an
incompatibility, you must correct it and offer a patch or replacement to
downstream recipients within 90 days, or stop shipment and notify
downstream recipients."
<<-----

SUNW breaks the law, because they themselves offer the Distro-JDK for
download and are therefore themselves "Distro-JDK distributors":

https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/developer.html
http://download.java.net/dlj/binaries/jdk-1_5_0_08-dlj-solaris-sparc.sh

They had been notified in May (by Belenix team) and in June and again in
July and August (by Belenix plus Schillix plus myself), that their
DLJ-Distro-JDK is incompatible.


The DLJ would have forced them, to ...

* "Ship only a compatible JDK on your OS"
(this means OpenSolaris)

* "If notified of an incompatibility, you must correct it and offer a
patch or replacement to downstream recipients within 90 days"
(The issue is known by SUNW for more than 100 days now! Where is the
notification? Where even a patch ?)

* or stop shipment and notify downstream recipients
(Did they stop shipment of that unusable Distro-JDK stillbirth ?)


Questions over questions, how a thing like that can happen.

Sorry if those words sound harsh.
But they're still not harsh enough.
Because I'm talking about facts.
Facts I wouldn't believe, if I didn't experienced them day after day,
half a year long.


Regards,
Martin
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