On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:38:30PM -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > You seem to have misread the email.  Stephen (Harpster)'s email is
> explicitly asking the community to get involved in the discussion.  As the
> copyright holder - yes, only Sun can make the actual license switch - but
> this is not a unilateral executive decision.
> 
>   No. I read clearly.  This is a call for opinion.
> 
>   For what purpose?  To what effect ?

To influence the decision of Sun, and to influence the direction of
GPLv3.

> license also.  Why?   What were the reasons for not going GPL?  Why are we
> now discussing GPLv3 as another license to slap on top of OpenSolaris? 

Because GPLv3 wasn't ready two years ago.

>   There are far more important issues to ask in this project :
> 
>   (1) why do we have source that can not be built into a runnable OS ?
> 
>   (2) why are key components held back ?  libc_i18n.a for example

For legal encumberances... just as it has been from the beginning - and
we've never said otherwise.  

> Its not a particularly fun process to watch a project for two years and see
> such tepid levels of community activity.  Certainly after so much fanfare
> and hoopla.

So... are you saying we're not growing fast enough for you?  What if
GPLv3 helps win more people over?  I'm confusd as to what you're trying
to say.

> If slapping yet another legal document on top seems to help then fine.  I
> would like to see the GPLv3 complete first and officers of Sun INC should
> not be discussing the issue *here* until it is a complete document.  Its

Stephen Harpster's email said:
'It's now a possibility that we could attach an "assembly exception" to
the GPLv3 which would let us mix GPL and CDDL code.'

We have the opportunity to influence GPLv3 here.

> outside of the scope of the OpenSolaris project and not our venue.  I am
> more concerned with getting software that helps people into their hands. 
> Its like feeding hungry people.  You can stand on the sidelines talking and
> talking about world hunger or you can go out and actually feed them.  I'd
> rather just get real work done please.

And we are.  Keep in mind there are many faces to Sun.  There are
lawyers, and there are engineers.  Lawyers deal with licensing issues.
Engineers are dealing with engineering issues.

cheers,
steve
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