Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
> Been following Solaris for the better part of two decades. Did casual stuff 
> with it off and on, nothing hardcore. Which should answer the "how long have 
> you been using computers".
> 
> "GUI is nice but not necessary for many computer tasks."
> Sure. It aint necassary for many tasks, but it certainly makes them more 
> intuitive rather than hunting down some cryptic commands.
"Cryptic" is perception. You gotta get used it. Same as GUI. You gotta 
get used to which menu item a particular task is hidden and painfully go 
through mouse clicks to actually get a task done.

Not everybody who decides to dabble with Solaris is a hardcore veteran 
of Solaris command line syntax.

Again perception. If you do not have patience then don't do it but 
refrain from generalizing just because you can't do it.
And normally I would not have an issue with this and would fully 
"expect" to spend days/weeks/months to learn that syntax (and in fact 
did, many years ago when I used to dabble with it),

There is no GUI that is obviously intuitive. There are people make 
living out of teaching all kinds of GUI tools.

except that EVERY major operating system today, enterprise or not, has 
atleast basic shells and GUI utilities in them to get you started. Not 
so with Solaris, even today.
> 
> "If you have been using only WindowZe for all your life you would never get 
> it."
> The classic response of a non Windows user. You'll be surprised how adept 
> Windows users can be even with command lines, if need be, but that's not the 
> issue. 

I have seen enough Windows administrators to pass on such as comment.

I use multiple operating systems, not just Windows, I have Windows 
machines, Macs, Linux machines, and was hoping to add a Solaris server 
as well, but I guess the learning curve is pushing me away.

You need to learn Unix before Solaris. If you can work on Linux then i 
wonder what stops you from working on Solaris.

> 
> Again, as I said, maybe it's just me, but to me it seems rather archaic, not 
> to expand a product to have addiitonal capabilities, that make it more 
> "modern" and inline with other operating systems. I LOVE ZFS, and would love 
> to deploy it in my company, but the hiccups seem to be too many.
> 
> As some have pointed out, Solaris is still "getting there" in terms of having 
> "modern" things like a good installer and GUI elements, so maybe I should 
> just wait.

Perhaps i need a GUI tool for movie player or Music player (BTW, i use 
mplayer without GUI).

After reading your response i am not sure if you are honest when you 
said that you have twenty years of experience in computers. If you were 
honest about your experience then you are not constructive in 
criticizing OpenSolaris as it uses GNOME and many other tools are being 
built as the opensolaris project is relatively new.

The beauty of many Solaris/Linux distros is that they offer you the 
powerful command line and also the GUI.



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>  I do not agree that working through GUI is faster than command line."
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