Ken Gunderson wrote:
Yes, Erik.  But few users are old grey beards like us that are comfortable with 
listserver and push discussion.  The newer generation interfaces w/everything 
via the browser, e.g. witness web 2.0, so the reality of the matter is that the 
majority of posts come via Jive interface.  And as in my opinion, the 
suboptimal interaction betwixt the two leaves Mailman as somewhat of second 
class citizen, the path of least resistance for me was to ditch listserver 
because it's pretty much impossible to fight the Jive tide...

So I was bored and did some counting.

Out of the 15846 messages I've received on Opensolaris lists in 2010, 5208 (33%) were to opensolaris-discuss. This is pretty sad on it's own.

For all lists, 22% of the messages were posted with Jive, but this rises to 44% of all unique sender addresses, so apparently the email users send more messages on average. 7% of senders used both Jive and email.

For opensolaris-discuss, 44% of messages were posted with Jive and this rises to 61% of unique sender addresses. 6% of senders used both.

As such, it's not true that "the majority of posts come from Jive", except by the single metric of "only opensolaris-discuss, and only if you count senders rather than messages".

I will say though that I'm surprised there are so many Jive users.

Also, IMHO, quoting what's being replied to is still a good idea if you don't want all of the people reading email to delete your message unread. But I can also hit delete without reading if people don't use quoting :) Bugzilla has the same problem of needing to quote context manually, for example, and I personally still add quoted text manually when needed.

Hugh.
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