On 13/02/15 14:17 +0000, Kuvaja, Erno wrote:
Hi Boris,



Thanks for your input. I do like the idea of picking up the changes that have
not been active. Do you have resources in mind to dedicate for this?



My personal take is that if some piece of work has not been touched for a
month, it’s probably not that important after all and the community should use
the resources to do some work that has actual momentum. The changes itself will
not disappear the owner is still able to revive it if felt that there is right
time to continue it. The cleanup will just make it easier for people to focus
on things that are actually moving. It also will make bug tracking bit easier
when one will see on the bug report that the patch got abandoned due to
inactivity and indicates that the owner of that bug might not be working on it
after all.

I agree the above holds most of the times. However, I think we should
add one more step to the bullets you mentioned in your previous email.
That is, taking a good look to the review and understanding if it'd be
worth taking it over.

Some reviews are stalled on minor fixes/rebases. It'd be a shame to
abandon a patch that would be a good fix for a bug based on a missing
rebase.

Flavio




-          Erno



From: Boris Pavlovic [mailto:bpavlo...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:25 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Cleanout of inactive change proposals
from review



Hi,



I believe that keeping review queue clean is the great idea.
But I am not sure that set of these rules is enough to abandon patches.



Recently I wrote blogpost related to making OpenStack community more user
friendly:

http://boris-42.me/thoughts-on-making-openstack-community-more-user-friendly/



tl;dr;



Patches on review are great source of information what is missing in project.

Removing them from queue means losing this essential information. The result

of such actions is that project doesn't face users requirements which is quite
bad...



What if that project team continue work on all "abandoned" patches  that are
covering
valid use cases and finish them?



Best regards,

Boris Pavlovic






On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Flavio Percoco <fla...@redhat.com> wrote:

   On 13/02/15 11:06 +0000, Kuvaja, Erno wrote:

       Hi all,

       We have almost year old (from last update) reviews still in the queue
       for
       glance. The discussion was initiated on yesterday’s meeting for
       adopting
       abandon policy for stale changes.

       The documentation can be found from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/
       glance-cleanout-of-inactive-PS and any input would be appreciated. For
       your
       convenience current state below:


   Thanks for putting this together. I missed the meeting yday and this
   is important.

       Glance - Cleanout of inactive change proposals from review


       We Should start cleaning out our review list to keep the focus on
       changes that
       has momentum. Nova is currently abandoning change proposals that has
       been
       inactive for 4 weeks.



       Proposed action (if all of the following is True, abandon the PS):

       1. The PS has -1/-2 (including Jenkins)


   I assume you're talking about voting -1/-2 and not Workflow, right?
   (you said jenkins afterall but just for the sake of clarity).

       2. The change is proposed to glance, glance_store or
       python-glanceclient;
          specs should not be abandoned as their workflow is much slower

       3. No activity for 28 days from Author/Owner after the -1/-2


   I'd reword this in "No activity". This includes comments, feedback,
   discussions and or other committers taking over a patch.

       4. There has been  query made to the owner to update the patch between
       5 and
          10 days  before abandoning (comment on PS/Bug or something similar)

        ● Let's be smart on this. Flexibility is good on holiday seasons,
       during
          feature freeze, etc.


   +2 to the above, I like it.

   Thanks again,
   Flavio

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