-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Per Jessen wrote: > Pascal Bleser wrote: > >> People complaining about not having their word to say in the product >> /project management have no clue about what it means, > > I personally wouldn't be making such blanket statements about what > people know or don't know. Just an observation.
So what do you actually want ? IIRC you've been complaining a few times that openSUSE is "not open". That may very well be constructive criticism, but what do you want ? Give some ideas, directions, proposals. You want to tell the SUSE devs what packages belong into the SUSE Linux product ? Are you going to do the support for those packages ? Are you going to test, Q&A it, take care of new releases, integrate and write security fixes, backport patches into those ? And if you don't care about the packaging, what is it exactly that you want to be able to do and that you currently cannot ? >> Also, this mailing-list has become almost unusable and unproductive, >> overwhelmed with trolling (lately) and with people reporting issues >> that definately belong to suse-linux-e and not here. > > I can't say I've noticed the list becoming unusable nor unproductive. > There are many threads that I don't bother reading, but that's normal. Well, the point is that there's already a list for that: suse-linux-e It just doesn't belong here. >> During the last few weeks there have been many more threads and mails >> about hardware/driver support issues than constructive discussions >> about the openSUSE community, how to interact and work together >> (Novell and the community), etc..., what is what I was actually >> expecting from this list. > > This is only because of Novell not clearly defining what openSUSE was/is > all about. Not just the list, but the whole project. If this list is Like what ? Seems there are quite a few threads you don't read ;) > for "constructive discussions about the openSUSE community", where does > one take technical issues/discussions with e.g. alpha releases? Create another list, dedicated to that, opensuse-testing or something. IMHO it's better to have dedicated mailing-lists because (at least I'd think) most people are interested in certain topics but not in having one mailing-list with dozens of different types of stuff. At least, for me, it's like that. I'm not interested into helping people with hardware issues or questions on how to do this or that on SUSE, or reporting stuff that doesn't work. (been there, done that for years, I have other things to do ;)). For others, it's precisely what they want to do. But maybe I'm wrong, who knows. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDdhObr3NMWliFcXcRAlfbAJ0e2ZY1QENEJ9pQozuHbCqLXjN3KwCfffMp 3p3JW6J2PvDxLaVfjiQy0hU= =vsrt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
