Agreed, especially with these latest (great) ideas from Rickard et all.

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From: "Joseph Ottinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Ognl as replacement for WW EL


> I'd also like to point out that it's possible to view XWork as a different
> product than WebWork. I don't know if that's the intent, but XWork seems
> to be slightly hamstrung by trying to be "WebWork 1.4 nee 2.0" - which may
> be acceptable, maybe not.
>
> It may be in its best interest to say "Well, we're trying to minimize the
> impact, but let's be real, we're tossing enough out to say that it's
> webwork-inspired, not webwork 2.0." That gives you a lot of freedom to
> retain what makes sense from a project standpoint, while accepting that
> some users will want to retain webwork's foibles and quirks instead. (I
> may be one of those, depending on the high-quality docs that are sure to
> follow an XWork release.)
>
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote:
>
> > Vedovato Paolo wrote:
> > > I think that it's a very important point to be able to switch to XWork
> > > without having code changes AND to have all the improvements (like
> > > performance etc.).
> >
> > Hm... not sure if that's realistic. Switching with minimal code changes,
> > yes, but with no code changes I don't know. For example, *Aware
> > interfaces should be gone. We might want to reconsider how context and
> > pre/post processing is done too. For example, it would be entirely
> > possible to use Action implementation wrappers instead of ActionFactory
> > delegates (i.e. do stuff on execute() instead of on getAction()). Since
> > I think most of us are seeing needs for that already (e.g. validation,
> > security, various pre-processing) that would be a nice way to handle it.
> > And it could also be an alternative way to do chaining.
> >
> > > So if there is extra work to achieve this it should really be
considered.
> > > That would lead to a really fast usage of XWork through the WebWork
> > > community.
> >
> > Really Fast Usage of XWork is not the primary concern IMHO. I would MUCH
> > rather have XWork be AS GOOD as it can be from both design and
> > performance point of views, and have usage delayed somewhat. Having a
> > compromised solution that only goes half the way is only going to hurt
> > in the end.
> >
> > /Rickard
> >
> >
>
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