Hi,

On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 02:42:17PM +0200, Lev Stipakov wrote:
> > I'm a bit unhappy with that one, as it changes behaviour for all
> > non-windows
> > builds (including all the openssl build output even if it succeeds).
> 
> The only place it changes behavior is this
> 
>  install:
>    - if [ ! -z "${CHOST}" ]; then unset CC; fi
> -  - .travis/build-deps.sh > build-deps.log 2>&1 || (cat build-deps.log &&
> exit 1)
> +  - .travis/build-deps.sh
> 
> I don't see it as an issue to print output when building dependencies. The
> reason why
> it is done is that travis aborts build if there is no output for more than
> 10 minutes.

It's lots of text that is totally uninteresting if it succeeds, but that
you need to scroll over when looking for the reason why a build fails -
which is the reason why it is the way it is today.

[..]
> We could probably have a templatized project file and script which inserts
> source files to there
> based on content of Makefile.ac, but I don't like it. I consider necessity
> of modifying VS project a lesser evil.
> 
> (you open it and it just works)

I'm not taking responsibility for not breaking MSVC builds.  This is a
world alien to me - if you want me to not break things, it needs to be
"without fiddling XML files".

If you volunteer to update MSVC every time we add or change a source file,
I'm happy to send you a HEADS UP notice.  But I am not doing it, and I will
not request it from any contributor who is not using windows.

gert
-- 
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 feed honest figures into a computer, honest figures come out. Never doubted 
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Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             g...@greenie.muc.de

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