On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> One feature we've discussed was exactly the conversation scope.
> His opinion as far as I remember was: the spec says JSF but it doesn't say we 
> aren't allowed to make it independent as long as we _also_ have conversations 
> for JSF in place. The same applies to EJB.
>
> The 2nd suggestion was the injection of Java natives (int, long, ...) for 
> producer methods via XML. The spec defines this only for field injection but 
> not yet for initializers and producers. Pete said they will probably add this 
> too in the future (but there is no time left to bring it into the spec yet 
> for 1.0).
>
> So the underlying message was: make the whining guys happy (you know of whom 
> I'm talking about)

Not really. the non-jsf folks ? Or those that want DI on JavaSE layer ?

-M

> and then make the 1,0 spec final the sooner the better!
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> --- Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009:
>
>> Von: Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
>> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
>> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 13:07
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark
>> Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I've talked with Pete Muir at the JSFDays about the
>> JSR-299 spec a lot.
>> >
>> > Since he has taken over the lead from Gavin,
>>
>> he is the IMPL lead, at JBoss. And now the JBoss rep. on
>> JSF 2.0
>>
>> > it should be possible to change an EG member also. And
>> also to add another person.
>>
>> Yes, that's correct. That was the reason why I brought this
>> up
>>
>> >
>> > The Spec for 1.0 is almost finished, there are a few
>> things which should be addressed but there is not enough
>> time to get it rdy for EE6! So this is basically a situation
>> where we have to get rid of all showstoppers but we
>> shouldn't add additional functionality at this point!
>> >
>> > I think the common ground of the JSR-299 Spec is solid
>> enough and fairly extendable. We have to implement what's in
>> the Spec but are completely free to add additional
>> functionality! I also talked with Pete about a few features
>> they will add, and they now also have SE support which is
>> not mentioned in the Spec. So I think it will not be a
>> problem to have new features added which are compatible in
>> RI and OWB _without_ having them written down in the
>> WebBeans-1.0 Spec but in a later one!
>> >
>>
>> sounds interesting. What features you were discussing? Can
>> you bring
>> it up here ?
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>> > One possible thing that still may come is that some
>> functionality (like eventing or interceptors, cannot
>> remember which) may be removed from WebBeans and moved over
>> to EJB or another spec.
>> >
>> > So one who does this Job really needs to know OWB
>> insideout _plus_ a good amount of understanding of the whole
>> EE business
>> >
>> > I don't think you are deep enough into OWB yet, but
>> personally would highly appreciate to see you as a committer
>> on OWB in the future :)
>> >
>> > LieGrue,
>> > strub
>> >
>> > --- James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com>
>> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009:
>> >
>> >> Von: James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com>
>> >> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert
>> Group
>> >> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 12:35
>> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM,
>> >> Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I want to step back from the Expert Group.
>> Question is
>> >> now:
>> >> > Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This
>> community
>> >> would
>> >> > make most sense to have an active OWB
>> committer being
>> >> part
>> >> > of the spec/EG.
>> >>
>> >> I would be interested in joining, but I am not an
>> OWB
>> >> committer.  I'm
>> >> very interested in making sure the spec stays
>> agnostic when
>> >> it comes
>> >> to the environment in which it runs.  The
>> >> specification should make it
>> >> easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain
>> ole JSP
>> >> applications.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
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>>
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