+1 for Gurkan, he has been so active on this project since the first days of it.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> One feature we've discussed was exactly the conversation scope.
>> His opinion as far as I remember was: the spec says JSF but it doesn't say 
>> we aren't allowed to make it independent as long as we _also_ have 
>> conversations for JSF in place. The same applies to EJB.
>>
>> The 2nd suggestion was the injection of Java natives (int, long, ...) for 
>> producer methods via XML. The spec defines this only for field injection but 
>> not yet for initializers and producers. Pete said they will probably add 
>> this too in the future (but there is no time left to bring it into the spec 
>> yet for 1.0).
>>
>> So the underlying message was: make the whining guys happy (you know of whom 
>> I'm talking about)
>
> Not really. the non-jsf folks ? Or those that want DI on JavaSE layer ?
>
> -M
>
>> and then make the 1,0 spec final the sooner the better!
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009:
>>
>>> Von: Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]>
>>> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 13:07
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark
>>> Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi!
>>> >
>>> > I've talked with Pete Muir at the JSFDays about the
>>> JSR-299 spec a lot.
>>> >
>>> > Since he has taken over the lead from Gavin,
>>>
>>> he is the IMPL lead, at JBoss. And now the JBoss rep. on
>>> JSF 2.0
>>>
>>> > it should be possible to change an EG member also. And
>>> also to add another person.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's correct. That was the reason why I brought this
>>> up
>>>
>>> >
>>> > The Spec for 1.0 is almost finished, there are a few
>>> things which should be addressed but there is not enough
>>> time to get it rdy for EE6! So this is basically a situation
>>> where we have to get rid of all showstoppers but we
>>> shouldn't add additional functionality at this point!
>>> >
>>> > I think the common ground of the JSR-299 Spec is solid
>>> enough and fairly extendable. We have to implement what's in
>>> the Spec but are completely free to add additional
>>> functionality! I also talked with Pete about a few features
>>> they will add, and they now also have SE support which is
>>> not mentioned in the Spec. So I think it will not be a
>>> problem to have new features added which are compatible in
>>> RI and OWB _without_ having them written down in the
>>> WebBeans-1.0 Spec but in a later one!
>>> >
>>>
>>> sounds interesting. What features you were discussing? Can
>>> you bring
>>> it up here ?
>>>
>>> -Matthias
>>>
>>> > One possible thing that still may come is that some
>>> functionality (like eventing or interceptors, cannot
>>> remember which) may be removed from WebBeans and moved over
>>> to EJB or another spec.
>>> >
>>> > So one who does this Job really needs to know OWB
>>> insideout _plus_ a good amount of understanding of the whole
>>> EE business
>>> >
>>> > I don't think you are deep enough into OWB yet, but
>>> personally would highly appreciate to see you as a committer
>>> on OWB in the future :)
>>> >
>>> > LieGrue,
>>> > strub
>>> >
>>> > --- James Carman <[email protected]>
>>> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009:
>>> >
>>> >> Von: James Carman <[email protected]>
>>> >> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert
>>> Group
>>> >> An: [email protected]
>>> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 12:35
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM,
>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > I want to step back from the Expert Group.
>>> Question is
>>> >> now:
>>> >> > Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This
>>> community
>>> >> would
>>> >> > make most sense to have an active OWB
>>> committer being
>>> >> part
>>> >> > of the spec/EG.
>>> >>
>>> >> I would be interested in joining, but I am not an
>>> OWB
>>> >> committer.  I'm
>>> >> very interested in making sure the spec stays
>>> agnostic when
>>> >> it comes
>>> >> to the environment in which it runs.  The
>>> >> specification should make it
>>> >> easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain
>>> ole JSP
>>> >> applications.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
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