For the record, I'm +1 on Gurkan, too. I just offered myself up because I have interest in the topic and I do have quite a bit of experience in the dependency injection arena (and dynamic proxies).
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for Gurkan, he has been so active on this project since the first days of > it. > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> > wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> One feature we've discussed was exactly the conversation scope. >>> His opinion as far as I remember was: the spec says JSF but it doesn't say >>> we aren't allowed to make it independent as long as we _also_ have >>> conversations for JSF in place. The same applies to EJB. >>> >>> The 2nd suggestion was the injection of Java natives (int, long, ...) for >>> producer methods via XML. The spec defines this only for field injection >>> but not yet for initializers and producers. Pete said they will probably >>> add this too in the future (but there is no time left to bring it into the >>> spec yet for 1.0). >>> >>> So the underlying message was: make the whining guys happy (you know of >>> whom I'm talking about) >> >> Not really. the non-jsf folks ? Or those that want DI on JavaSE layer ? >> >> -M >> >>> and then make the 1,0 spec final the sooner the better! >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> --- Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009: >>> >>>> Von: Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>>> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert Group >>>> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 13:07 >>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark >>>> Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi! >>>> > >>>> > I've talked with Pete Muir at the JSFDays about the >>>> JSR-299 spec a lot. >>>> > >>>> > Since he has taken over the lead from Gavin, >>>> >>>> he is the IMPL lead, at JBoss. And now the JBoss rep. on >>>> JSF 2.0 >>>> >>>> > it should be possible to change an EG member also. And >>>> also to add another person. >>>> >>>> Yes, that's correct. That was the reason why I brought this >>>> up >>>> >>>> > >>>> > The Spec for 1.0 is almost finished, there are a few >>>> things which should be addressed but there is not enough >>>> time to get it rdy for EE6! So this is basically a situation >>>> where we have to get rid of all showstoppers but we >>>> shouldn't add additional functionality at this point! >>>> > >>>> > I think the common ground of the JSR-299 Spec is solid >>>> enough and fairly extendable. We have to implement what's in >>>> the Spec but are completely free to add additional >>>> functionality! I also talked with Pete about a few features >>>> they will add, and they now also have SE support which is >>>> not mentioned in the Spec. So I think it will not be a >>>> problem to have new features added which are compatible in >>>> RI and OWB _without_ having them written down in the >>>> WebBeans-1.0 Spec but in a later one! >>>> > >>>> >>>> sounds interesting. What features you were discussing? Can >>>> you bring >>>> it up here ? >>>> >>>> -Matthias >>>> >>>> > One possible thing that still may come is that some >>>> functionality (like eventing or interceptors, cannot >>>> remember which) may be removed from WebBeans and moved over >>>> to EJB or another spec. >>>> > >>>> > So one who does this Job really needs to know OWB >>>> insideout _plus_ a good amount of understanding of the whole >>>> EE business >>>> > >>>> > I don't think you are deep enough into OWB yet, but >>>> personally would highly appreciate to see you as a committer >>>> on OWB in the future :) >>>> > >>>> > LieGrue, >>>> > strub >>>> > >>>> > --- James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> >>>> schrieb am Do, 16.4.2009: >>>> > >>>> >> Von: James Carman <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> >>>> >> Betreff: Re: JSR 299 / WebBeans -> Expert >>>> Group >>>> >> An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 16. April 2009, 12:35 >>>> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:35 AM, >>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > I want to step back from the Expert Group. >>>> Question is >>>> >> now: >>>> >> > Does one of you want to be on that EG ? This >>>> community >>>> >> would >>>> >> > make most sense to have an active OWB >>>> committer being >>>> >> part >>>> >> > of the spec/EG. >>>> >> >>>> >> I would be interested in joining, but I am not an >>>> OWB >>>> >> committer. I'm >>>> >> very interested in making sure the spec stays >>>> agnostic when >>>> >> it comes >>>> >> to the environment in which it runs. The >>>> >> specification should make it >>>> >> easy to use in Wicket, or Tapestry, or just plain >>>> ole JSP >>>> >> applications. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > > > > -- > ---- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein >
