For me, ops4j.org page never worked (I mean it shows only "It works!"), so I'm +1 for moving to ops4j.github.org with or without redirect from ops4j.org TLD.
regards Grzegorz Grzybek wt., 31 mar 2020 o 08:19 Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> napisał(a): > I am... That is then what the vote is for... > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Even if we go to ops4j.github.com, I think it will be helpful to >> redirect from ops4j.org. So, I volunteer to "take" the ops4j domain. It >> will give us time to "transfer" resources to github. >> >> OK with that ? >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:15 AM Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> The thread's primary question is; >>> >>> Shall I a) let the ops4j domain names expire, or b) transfer them to >>> someone else? If b), then Who/What? >>> >>> The rest is "interesting" but actually "out of scope" for something very >>> concrete in 10 weeks time. The full structure of community can in principle >>> be discussed/decided later, or not... >>> >>> >>> // Niclas >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>> What do you think I start a vote on the mailing list to propose to move >>>> to ops4j.github.com ? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> JB >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:34 PM Peter Neubauer < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Niclas for bringing up the issue! >>>>> >>>>> FWIW - I think Github is basically what OPS4J set out to be >>>>> code-contribution-wise. IMHO going back to Apache is a matter of the >>>>> community deciding if the barriers for governance/contribution are lower >>>>> now. Otherwise - I think just moving everything to Github - only would be >>>>> the lowest-threshold option here. >>>>> >>>>> /peter >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:50:52 AM UTC+1, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Imho, we should switch everything to github. I wouldn't even bother >>>>>> paying for a domain, i think something like ops4j.github.org is >>>>>> enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> *TL/TR:* >>>>>>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively >>>>>>> used atm). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Long version:* >>>>>>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go >>>>>>> with OPS4J in general. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get >>>>>>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was >>>>>>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including >>>>>>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, >>>>>>> Pax >>>>>>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals >>>>>>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles >>>>>>> got to life.. but oh well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and >>>>>>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is >>>>>>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that >>>>>>> come to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the >>>>>>> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this >>>>>>> means >>>>>>> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too >>>>>>> btw). >>>>>>> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities >>>>>>> backing >>>>>>> this anyway. >>>>>>> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a >>>>>>> clear who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github >>>>>>> Sponsoring >>>>>>> to spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. >>>>>>> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an >>>>>>> entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. >>>>>>> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to >>>>>>> apache. Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wdyt? >>>>>>> Toni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing >>>>>>> developer culture* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Niclas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing >>>>>>>> 😀). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> JB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Everyone, >>>>>>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for >>>>>>>>> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since >>>>>>>>> I no >>>>>>>>> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain >>>>>>>>> names. But >>>>>>>>> where to?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise >>>>>>>>> to a trusted community member. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and >>>>>>>>> will simply follow what you all can agree on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ops4j.org >>>>>>>>> ops4j.net >>>>>>>>> ops4j.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> Niclas >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>>> OPS4J - 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