I am... That is then what the vote is for...
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 1:39 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < [email protected]> wrote: > Even if we go to ops4j.github.com, I think it will be helpful to redirect > from ops4j.org. So, I volunteer to "take" the ops4j domain. It will give > us time to "transfer" resources to github. > > OK with that ? > > Regards > JB > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 4:15 AM Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The thread's primary question is; >> >> Shall I a) let the ops4j domain names expire, or b) transfer them to >> someone else? If b), then Who/What? >> >> The rest is "interesting" but actually "out of scope" for something very >> concrete in 10 weeks time. The full structure of community can in principle >> be discussed/decided later, or not... >> >> >> // Niclas >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree. >>> >>> What do you think I start a vote on the mailing list to propose to move >>> to ops4j.github.com ? >>> >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:34 PM Peter Neubauer <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Niclas for bringing up the issue! >>>> >>>> FWIW - I think Github is basically what OPS4J set out to be >>>> code-contribution-wise. IMHO going back to Apache is a matter of the >>>> community deciding if the barriers for governance/contribution are lower >>>> now. Otherwise - I think just moving everything to Github - only would be >>>> the lowest-threshold option here. >>>> >>>> /peter >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:50:52 AM UTC+1, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Imho, we should switch everything to github. I wouldn't even bother >>>>> paying for a domain, i think something like ops4j.github.org is >>>>> enough. >>>>> >>>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> a >>>>> écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> *TL/TR:* >>>>>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively >>>>>> used atm). >>>>>> >>>>>> *Long version:* >>>>>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go >>>>>> with OPS4J in general. >>>>>> >>>>>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get >>>>>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was >>>>>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the >>>>>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including >>>>>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, >>>>>> Pax >>>>>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals >>>>>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles >>>>>> got to life.. but oh well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and >>>>>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is >>>>>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that >>>>>> come to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): >>>>>> >>>>>> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the >>>>>> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this >>>>>> means >>>>>> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too >>>>>> btw). >>>>>> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities >>>>>> backing >>>>>> this anyway. >>>>>> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a >>>>>> clear who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github >>>>>> Sponsoring >>>>>> to spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. >>>>>> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an >>>>>> entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am >>>>>> not >>>>>> sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. >>>>>> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to >>>>>> apache. Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) >>>>>> >>>>>> wdyt? >>>>>> Toni >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing >>>>>> developer culture* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Niclas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing >>>>>>> 😀). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> JB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> >>>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone, >>>>>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for >>>>>>>> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since >>>>>>>> I no >>>>>>>> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. >>>>>>>> But >>>>>>>> where to?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to >>>>>>>> a trusted community member. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and >>>>>>>> will simply follow what you all can agree on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ops4j.org >>>>>>>> ops4j.net >>>>>>>> ops4j.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Niclas >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3QGMMWvzzCck96CxemuYgSiYWNcs%2BOGPXmtaKTthoJvrw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3QGMMWvzzCck96CxemuYgSiYWNcs%2BOGPXmtaKTthoJvrw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>> OPS4J - 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