Hello What do you think I start a vote on the mailing list >
+1 for starting the vote ;) regards Grzegorz Grzybek wt., 31 mar 2020 o 04:15 Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> napisał(a): > > The thread's primary question is; > > Shall I a) let the ops4j domain names expire, or b) transfer them to > someone else? If b), then Who/What? > > The rest is "interesting" but actually "out of scope" for something very > concrete in 10 weeks time. The full structure of community can in principle > be discussed/decided later, or not... > > > // Niclas > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > jeanbaptiste.ono...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree. >> >> What do you think I start a vote on the mailing list to propose to move >> to ops4j.github.com ? >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:34 PM Peter Neubauer <neubauer.pe...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Niclas for bringing up the issue! >>> >>> FWIW - I think Github is basically what OPS4J set out to be >>> code-contribution-wise. IMHO going back to Apache is a matter of the >>> community deciding if the barriers for governance/contribution are lower >>> now. Otherwise - I think just moving everything to Github - only would be >>> the lowest-threshold option here. >>> >>> /peter >>> >>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:50:52 AM UTC+1, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >>>> >>>> Imho, we should switch everything to github. I wouldn't even bother >>>> paying for a domain, i think something like ops4j.github.org is enough. >>>> >>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:01, Toni Menzel <toni....@rebaze.com> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> *TL/TR:* >>>>> I'd be also happy to pay for ops4j.org (the one that is actively used >>>>> atm). >>>>> >>>>> *Long version:* >>>>> Since this is coming up now, there is a general question were to go >>>>> with OPS4J in general. >>>>> >>>>> It predated github and probably was back then the easiest way to get >>>>> hands dirty in a non-trivial java based OSS community where trust was >>>>> default. Think about it, back then everyone could get write access to the >>>>> subversion repo and start hacking on new or existing projects. Including >>>>> admin access to jira and whatever else was existing back then. Pax URL, >>>>> Pax >>>>> Runner, Pax Exam, Pax Construct etc. all got initiated by individuals >>>>> without asking for permission. I mean.. thats Names like Pax Tinybundles >>>>> got to life.. but oh well. >>>>> >>>>> Now, why am I writing this: there is - at least for pax url, web and >>>>> exam - a huge user base that seems to be quite healthy. Even if there is >>>>> just that "ops4j" name of the github organization now, no website etc. >>>>> >>>>> So, question: what are the options? Let me just drop them here that >>>>> come to my mind (ordered from easy-as-py to more complicated options): >>>>> >>>>> - keep things as is, find individual sponsors like I do with the >>>>> Build Server (who uses that still by the way??), and JB or me (this >>>>> means >>>>> I'd be also fine to pay for the org domain that is in active use,too >>>>> btw). >>>>> It would be good to have two different companies or legal entities >>>>> backing >>>>> this anyway. >>>>> - Modernize OPS4J a bit. Get it a landing page at least and a >>>>> clear who is behind all this, who pays etc. Maybe look at Github >>>>> Sponsoring >>>>> to spread costs across user base - avoid single entity control. >>>>> - Maybe look into making it a proper foundation or at least an >>>>> entity that makes the work here eligible for future donations. I am not >>>>> sure of this is worth it. But i feel Open Source != Open Governance. >>>>> - Retire non active projects and donate active projects to apache. >>>>> Probably difficult because of Intellectual Property) >>>>> >>>>> wdyt? >>>>> Toni >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Toni Menzel | rebaze.com <https://www.rebaze.com> | growing developer >>>>> culture* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < >>>>> jeanbapti...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Niclas >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all, thanks a lot for all what you did (and still doing 😀). >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m ready to take the hand for the domain and finance them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> JB >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 12:13, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone, >>>>>>> In a few months time (June), the OPS4J domain names are up for >>>>>>> renewal. And I have been paying for those for 15 years now, and since I >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> longer participate in OPS4J I would like to transfer the domain names. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> where to?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ideally a foundation that would be Ok to take it over, otherwise to >>>>>>> a trusted community member. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ideas are welcome, and should be discussed. I have no opinion and >>>>>>> will simply follow what you all can agree on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ops4j.org >>>>>>> ops4j.net >>>>>>> ops4j.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Niclas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - op...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to op...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKf7a0rzdkro7v-rxBV1p1-KkSMTE_BQT2HhUZyOUM9jyA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ------------------ >>>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - op...@googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to op...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3QGMMWvzzCck96CxemuYgSiYWNcs%2BOGPXmtaKTthoJvrw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3QGMMWvzzCck96CxemuYgSiYWNcs%2BOGPXmtaKTthoJvrw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> ------------------ >>>>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - op...@googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to op...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAEjgzHT%2BYNAL3CA1dsqGpevhpoYsU9OYVUBi%3Df%2BMT9_u5ta3fw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAEjgzHT%2BYNAL3CA1dsqGpevhpoYsU9OYVUBi%3Df%2BMT9_u5ta3fw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------ >>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>> >>>> -- >>> -- >>> ------------------ >>> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - ops4j@googlegroups.com >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OPS4J" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to ops4j+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/14adf9b2-1de0-4af5-835e-832c3c1e1185%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/14adf9b2-1de0-4af5-835e-832c3c1e1185%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> -- >> ------------------ >> OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - ops4j@googlegroups.com >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OPS4J" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ops4j+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3RyG8sxL49uTn4pT2nssc5YtGy5G6w%3DvweJBXmMZ_4XZw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CAB8EV3RyG8sxL49uTn4pT2nssc5YtGy5G6w%3DvweJBXmMZ_4XZw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > -- > ------------------ > OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - ops4j@googlegroups.com > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OPS4J" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ops4j+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKduMCvFn0VSbS6%3DE9pFPyN5j11PssGS%2BhYTcpWE3OS-CA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ops4j/CADmm%2BKduMCvFn0VSbS6%3DE9pFPyN5j11PssGS%2BhYTcpWE3OS-CA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- -- ------------------ OPS4J - http://www.ops4j.org - ops4j@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OPS4J" group. 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