How do you feel, in a gender-neutral series, about leaving the decision of
larks/robins vs. positional to the caller, so long as it's declared and
publicized in advance?  At least in some areas, there are not enough
positional callers to have an all-positional series.

Thanks,

--jh--


On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 12:32 AM Lisa Marie Lunt via Organizers <
organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I think it's important to listen to what Don Veino just wrote. Don is both
> a caller and organizer. It's not fair to put the responsibility for
> choosing role names on the callers. It's the organizers' responsibility to
> make decisions about our dances.
>
> Lisa Lunt
> She/her
> Jamaica Plain (Boston) Gender Free Contra Dance
>
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 4:17 PM Don Veino via Organizers <
> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> As a caller and organizer, this is a hot button topic for me. Please, if
>> you are organizing a dance, take responsibility for this decision and make
>> it clearly public to your participants in advance. I understand you may be
>> uncomfortable making this choice and possibly want to "please everybody" by
>> leaving it to the caller but that just sets up the worst dynamic for all.
>>
>> My take is that the dance's organizers *own* the culture and
>> implementation policies of their dance. If you would not leave it up to the
>> caller to decide to do swing dance instead or declare the admission is half
>> off for a given event, then you shouldn't leave such a topic to them either.
>>
>> "Traditional", Larks/ Robins, positional - alternating per event,
>> whatever - make the determination and let the people coming know in advance.
>>
>> I personally will no longer accept bookings from a dance that doesn't
>> have a stated role term policy. I will call with the terms stated (or
>> decline the event). I had a booking for a longstanding dance which changed
>> from decades of "Traditional" to "Caller's Choice" after booking me, with
>> no heads up. I first heard of it when I started hearing from people
>> advocating for one or the other terms, as "my choice". The organizers
>> wouldn't make the call and the publicity was already out there. Bad scene
>> for all, not the way to set up dance joy.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 1:28 PM Sandy Seiler via Organizers <
>> organizers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>> <snip>
>> Currently terminology is the caller's decision.  So it goes back and
>> forth from gendered to non gendered.  That is not mentioned on the website,
>> but I do know that at least one of our callers has requested that the
>> Lawrence board make a decision about it so the callers don't have that
>> responsibility and possible fall out from it.
>> </snip>
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