Hi Luca,
I do agree. As a new user scoping out the alternatives (Neo4J, ArangoDB, or
going back to Mongo or Postgres), there are a few barriers IMO:
- *Documentation*
- It should be *extremely* trivial to set up a basic instance. For
example, what if the last section of the main GitHub page
<https://github.com/orientechnologies/orientdb> contained a "Quick
Start" section that gets one started with and extremely simple database
from scratch...
-
wget
http://www.orientechnologies.com/download/orientdb-community-latest.tar.gz
- unzip ...
- run console.sh...
- CREATE DATABASE remote:localhost/my_db
- CONNECT remote:localhost/my_db root PASS_LOCATED_IN_CONFIG_XML
- CREATE CLASS MyClass
- ...
- This would make it very quick for someone new to get up and
running instantly without doing work, and I know I don't speak for
myself
when I say developers love less input and more output
- You could also just add this to "Easy to install and use"
- Focus more on letting people try it than explaining about it
- Kill "But wasn't OrientDB an ODBMS", "Why yet another NoSQL"
sections
- Add in use cases, which leads me to my next point
- *Case Studies*
- I don't even know if there are any, and if there aren't, spend time
working with companies that have built a name in their field (as big as
you
can find)
- Have an "Examples" section with vastly different use cases, eg.
social network, enterprise software, etc.
- Personally, my company is about to announce valley funding and
be a big player in health & fitness, social, mobile, and consumer, and
after I have it up and running I would gladly give a juicy case study.
The
reason we didn't give one to Parse.com is because I was having
problems scaling with their tech and knew we would be off of it soon.
I'm
also organizing a meetup group in Toronto
<http://www.meetup.com/OrientDB-Toronto/> to raise awareness and
add to the community. If we appear on TechCrunch again
<http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/21/pumpup-exits-beta/> and are
shown to be using OrientDB, that's convincing, especially for SV
startups.
- Continuously update these as your case studies include larger and
larger brands
- *Help*
- This more of a personal opinion, but I know all of my developer
friends (from University of Waterloo and SV) use StackOverflow, and
seeing only
241 tagged questions
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/orient-db?sort=newest> is
generally a red flag. I would recommend switching this group over to
using
Stack Overflow as it is already a central Q&A and also markets
technologies; more popular technologies generally have more popular tags.
- *Presence*
- Having a presence in Silicon Valley is generally a good thing. I'm
not sure what the funding situation is for OrientDB, but if you can raise
a
round like Neo4J and expand to build an office in the valley, that will
do
wonders for both marketing and finding great talent.
I have high hopes for OrientDB and strongly believe that it has a bright
future ahead. A huge thanks to the team on their hard work so far from the
entire community. We at PumpUp wish you great success!
On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:43:00 AM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Luca, hi!
>
> As an illustration of the case: while reading this thread I was sure it is
> current and started just few days ago.
> And then... surprise.
>
> What I think we really need for promotion - is good reason for cites from
> specialists and "big" names as well. And I think that some other
> killer-feature ideas apart just "graphdb" are vital in this situation.
>
> Personally from my side - I like idea of OrientDB very much, you know, and
> you bought us by idea and we are ready to buy product as we even considered
> to use it as foundation of our current project...
> But while we could deal with documentation so far (not as solid, as it
> could be, but it is ok for a while), while we are not interested how much
> money you've gathered from investors (but this might convince others, less
> technical speakers), in my honest opinion - the robustness and stability
> are what OrientDB should be able to sell at first place now.
> That is the feature, which will definitely kill any database product if it
> is not first class property of this product.
>
> Thank you for the great product, indeed and I hope we will have real
> chance to help you make it the best one.
>
> Ata
>
> суббота, 21 июня 2014 г., 19:30:54 UTC+5 пользователь Lvc@ написал:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> What are you referring?
>>
>> Lvc@
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 June 2014 15:20, Daniel Cardin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> it would be nice to revisit this topic. What do you think Luca? Want a
>>> new discussion about the current state of OrientDB ?
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